We Need a Constitutional Political party
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EPU’ed.
Has Whitehouse explicated his vote and his on the one mitt/on the early activeness on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act?
Full morn. Organic law indeed.
And today to the of import material *g*. forenoon bird.
EPU’d to a lower place http://firedoglake.com/2008/02…..National Trust1270666
SanderO from the old yarn makes a full detail about this:
We, as imperfects/liberalists/Constitutionalists, need to be organizing an alinement to beef up ourselves.
Perhaps we could start our own Political action committee?
We appear to be the only aces in the state who realize the grandness of the US Organic law in our daily lives.
Wow, Scarer. Glenzilla himself could not have informated it better!
Need something,
Idea of backing up Democrat after the public presentation of the 110th grates on my nervousness.
How about beginning a
Fundamental law Caucus
Full cut-to-the-chase thread, ‘Crow.
That we are STILL having to struggle this shit, 7 months into the bush mad-hatter party, and 5 months into the bloody fiasco in Republic of Iraq, is an salaciousness.
I bet those bums in the oval were pop corks abounding yesterday. Overly big they were not better took aim.
I regard blue-dog Democrat to be a great evil than Republican. They are sure enough harder for imperfects to extinguish, and they afford all Democrat a big gens.
Primary elections are a very full thing. We should do them more frequently.
What’s the business deal with Mikulski?
I inhabited in Old Line State lots of months ago and recall her in an a great deal better, vocal light. She’s a societal proletarian dammit! Ca not think she’s through with this.
So makes this mean that the only thing they are not cleaning up is our snail mail? Or is that so yesterday (as in they’ve been making that all along?)
- As big as the Senate Bill is, the Senate jilted an endeavor to get the measure the exclusive agency by that surveillance can be authorised. So the Chief Executive arguably can deal farther undercover work on American even without the minimum protective covers went forth in the Measure.
That vote genuinely dismayed me. It’s big enough that these people are imperialists, but that as well want to change state the U.S. into Orwellian law state. It’s apalling.
simply believe about what they are retention all over her head.
Full Forenoon Strawman, have subscribed the postulation.
caw caw!
but those 31 or so votes specify the boundaries of the Constitutional Backstage of the Democratic Political party.
And in that lies the hang, ‘crow. After 2 and half months at FDL, I eventually estimated extinct what FDL focuses on: issues that go against the US Organic law. FDL latches on to these and never lets go until single one manner or the former…
In agreement, I should only be felicitous about Donna for nowadays.
The early grouping that is to fault for this FISA debacle is the mainstream culture mediums. They have nearly whole neglected this menace to our constitution, and when they made conver it their reportage was filled with inacuracies, falsities, and lies.
Full morn, firedoglakepersons,etc. Full/big twenty, eh.
Even if you take Atrios’ view that a slew of the Democrat but concur with the Bushwingers (as fought to being but intimidated by affright menaces), you’d conceive they could say the opinion poll and say the ire against their went on support of these outrages. I ca not account for this.
In agreement, I should merely be felicitous about Donna for nowadays.
I am! it’s merriment to smile and i consider her triumph augurs good for progressivenicity
Afforded the fact of the complete nonstarter of Republican political theory and administration, it’s sensational that the initiates are expression this is travelling to be a very near presidential election. It should be a bump extinct. Proposes that it will use up a contemporaries of educational tries for American to to the full compass the anti-democratic, anti-constitutional, totallitarian nature of the Republican Political party. It sets out with acquiring disembarrass of blue domestic dog Democrat.
I do not concord that the direction is largely on Constitutional issues - although it is trued up that lots of of the indignations of the Shrub Disposal are joined to infraction of the Fundamental law. But I do not understand wellness care, sexism, corruptness, culture mediums bias and lots of former numbers we cover here needfully joined to Constitutional concerns. The Plame insurance coverage was about expedition an undercover agent and natural covering it up.
Morning time everyone, Scarer. I concord with this, but not as a party (that would occupy excessively retentive to make, and would fracture the otherwise mostly practicable party we have. Instead, as I proposed a few… ago, what needs to be through is to make a Novel city block of 12 in the Senate and a like grouping in the house of people crosswise both political parties (there have to be sizeable grouping of Republican) who are bequeathing to pull themselves (and vote) on the Organic law. We cognise how efficacious the pack of 12 (William Wilkie Collins, Lieberman, Horatio Nelson etc) has been in packing material the sovereign tribunal with anti-constitution people such as Alito. Assumptive we can foresee some of the 12 in this approaching election and posterior singles, a fresh city block could have matched if not great powerfulness.
Rule
Yes. Greenwald had got a station a duo hours back about the total untruths in the WSJ editorial (not the front end page reportage, that was better). On the former mitt, the NYT was pretty full in coverage - they bust the original narrative of the insupportable surveillance, and their editorial page was splendid on this issue. The video culture mediums made a pitiful business, demur for KO’s use of John James Byron Dean and Sir David Bruce Fein, and Bill Moyers.
Here you go http://www.constitutionparty.com/
So, what possible forces are causation them to do this:
- They really conceive in turn the U.S. into a police force state.
- They are being black clad via oppo-research, maybe gathered by the National Security Agency.
- They need phone company campaign parts to get returned.
- They want favourable imperativeness insurance coverage.
- They want to be recognized by peers at their contry club, church, or synagog.
View DiFi. Virtually sure as shooting she’ll not run for re-election. She is highly affluent and well-established. She comes up from the most liberal part in the body politic. What need could she have to back up such Orwellian statute law?
Beatrice Webb is on CSPAN nowadays and they’re using up calls for him…
What I do not get is why this ca not but be set in league. That is unless the leading genuinely want it this manner. Btw: OT but I’m so psyc’ed about Donna Jonathan Edwards kick tush!
I do not consider that’s what JimWhite held in mind
And if you need anything farther to bring up your gag reflex to a high level, the toad-in-chief will be on the word before long to bound up and down with hilarity. 
I believe that’s a superb thought, manifestly Dems in congress don’t
appear to get that people want more openess and inclusiveness in
authorities..Having a reserved monetary fund on mitt that when there is an of import number at mitt, we can head for the hills some advertisings.directing the big Dems. On the FISA issue most Dems made not react to call calls, emails etc…we have to happen a novel scheme to get them use up notice.
I should note that DiFi was complicit in the Intelligence agency Bill, but after her switch amendment was got the better of, she voted for cloture but then voted against the measure at the terminal. Entirely uneffective.
When you get into “powerfulness” you get corrupt unless you are truly focussed on helping the people and not puff up with powerfulness.
We need term limits.
There are plenty of full people to function. it woull lick so a lot of jobs.
we have term limits at the voting box
Unadulterated importance
On health care, sexism, corruptness, culture mediums bias: these are issues more or less apart, and I conceive some of those will be changed with a novel disposal and a great figure of Democrat in the house. The fast one with the former is to happen a fashion to take the betrothal of buttonholing back to the 1970s-1980s epoch (a diminutive fraction of what it is today). We could have a whole post on divergences then and today and how to take some saneness to this. On sexism, good Sverige (I believe) got it a jurisprudence that each party had got to place up adult females as 50%? of its nominees. Improbable to occur here, and, as we cognise not all adult females are on our face. Interestingly Hillary’s campaigning has already changed thing. MSM erudite that by batterring her below the belt, adult females affected more powerfully for her (in NH),in short they voted against MSM. On corruptness, understand my comments on buttonholing (that will besides convey down the cost of running away, I believe. On culture mediums bias, Congress and the novel President of the will be capable to place in play some modifications, and with the presidential term, and a very good talked President that will transubstantiate thing. What I truly fear, and what will destruct FDL and early progressive internet sites, I fear, is the terminal of net disinterest, for with that, sites that are viewed as to be to a fault anti-establishment will just be prohibited.
NO Fashion IN Snake pit! At least we today still have a fourth amendment. Afforded the two-to-one bulk that we saw yesterday going through that dreadful statute law, I’d anticipate them to affect the entire bill of rightfields if there were a Consitutional pattern.
No elliot,
We have officeholder.
Realise how the presidential election is this cycle. No incumbent.
We need a refreshful subspecies of all time election cycle.
Citizenry who fan gov religious service can locomote to former line of works.
The Republican who would otherwise be pro-constitution are frightened shitless of 1) Vagabond/Shrub/Limbaugh/Savage/Coulter/AIP*C. The Democrat who would otherwise be pro-constition are frightened of the like.
With intent.
Cloture was the tonality vote, and she cognised it.
The right of the people to be secure in their souls, business firm, written document, and personal effects, against inordinate hunts and ictus, shall not be profaned, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, backed up by swearing or avowal, and especially drawing the spot to be looked for, and the somebodies or thing to be clutched.
I hope you have it attached to remembering
I’d append to “Wander/Shrub/Limbaugh/Savage/Coulter/AIP*C” the entire editorial board of WaPO, WSJ, and anything owned by Keith Rupert Murdoch.
Nancy and Steny dance spell the Organic law Nathan Birnbaum.
Ok, so the Organic law is being trod on once again concording to this article. What are all of you moving to do about it? I understand posts on this site from time to clock but like this and hitherto you never realise any activity with the elision of aspersions against Shrub and the ugly older Republican.
You all need to go back and review what our Introduction Begetter set on the argument for the exact like number that was brought up in this blog. As I am certain most of you will not do this, they (the Creation Begetter) lay themselves, their chances (most were affluent), their didactics, their homes, and everything else they maintained dear on the argumentation to struggle precisely this type of thing you all are complaintive about.
We need primary elections for all of those recreants.
We need federally funded elections.
I dissent on term limits-the above will do it.
How can we genuinely lobby these congress critters? I mean get past their praetorian guards and explicate it to them?
My sense is that they do not cognise the numbers very good.
Thanks for that illumination…
Yes there are former shipways to acheive answerability, public finance is one.
But I nowadays favor fresh and bracing people in congress.
Saint George Washington D cognised that and he trod aside.
Wherefore do we need critters in there for decenniums?
Gore made his time and nowadays he is making some utile. And he’s not in gov.
Wherefore not term limits?
Hi…Maked you get my reaction last nighttime?
The President of the is term restrained?
There is nothing inherently incorrect with the thought of a confined term in business office. NYC city manager is term restricted (give thanks Supreme Being).
We need to get disembarrass of entrenched powerfulness that gets constituted with never termination footing in business office.
I conceive of Teddy boy Jack Kennedy and all he has made. Russ Feingold, Ed Markey (my former critter) and lots of others. Institutional remembering is not a big thing. We merely need to do a full sanctifying of the toxins sporadically. Infant and bathwater . . . .
Per common, splendid station SC. I have two ideas this forenoon. Mon I occurred to pick up a spot of Rush Limbaugh, he was travelling off on McCain and conservativism et. al. He really arrogated that Conservativists are the singles who consider in preserving the constitution and specifically the Measure of Rightfields. I idea to myself, this is distinctive GOP propaganda. State one thing, do some other. Good Senators, since the Fundamental law is up for grabs in order to maintain us safe, let’s go after the sec amendment, huh? Want to understand some Conservative heads set off, say them that under a Democratic President, we will be asking that Ordnance society let us cognise where all of there arms have travelled and we will be attaching those arms in order to protect us from those arms peradventure acquiring in the custody of terrorists. By the style, we will afford the Artillery manufacturer’s unsusceptibility after the fact.
Sec idea, appearing at the listing of DINO’s - ironically, I think if President Abraham Lincoln Chafee were in Whitehouse’s seat, he would have interrupted ranks with the Republican Party.
Maintain pound the house - I beg they will not cave. Think, we have the purchase - if the instruments are so of import to protect us, then the Republican Party and Shrub would not play secret plan and veto or delay in order to get protective covering for their buddies.
You are right, but recognize they are notion VERY threatened about their hereafters because of the entanglement. They victimised to be capable to command everything via print and tv. No tenacious. Essentially they were cow-towing to the Limbaugh/Drift/AIP*C group. I conceive that will before long end because all three have turned up to be fake (Limbaugh’s campaigner Romney misplaced big time, Vagabond misplaced the last election, the pro-ME war goons are being yelled down every clip Obama verbalises about the irresponsiblity of this war.
For elucidation, the “ineffectual” Scarer intended we need more disciples to the Fundamental law in the Democratic Political party. I”m not urging a 3rd party.
As for FDL, there have been successess and letdowns. Lamont/Lieberman - directed a vast content, but was as well a vast letdown. Was it worth making? You bet.
We’re push the opinions of what a political web log, or an alliance of web logs, can do, and the panel is lulled extinct. For certain we’ve aided make and supply to the refrain push for of import reforms and/or answerability by public functionaries. We aided marshal imperfect tenses and enabled important raising for progressive campaigners. We can centre attending on issues and encourage full nominees. No one here has semblance that blogs alone can whole change the preaching or salve the res publica, but that makes not mean we’re not had got a convinced result.
I believe Al Wynn can utter to the current edition of ‘term limits” today. I conceive of not gayly, but he today has the total experience.
Full items.
Chafee held lots of chances to interrupt ranks and he seldom made. Though he is doingtrying to do a mea culpa with the volume, he was still for the most part a party participant.
I made, thanks (and full morning time). I directed one back at you, but inhabitting in rural Rypw8thwrystan these hours it my occupy a patch to zigzag up the waiters to get it through. 
Chimpy on MSNBC nowadays…blergh!
And why is it that they are frightened Capital of Virginia? This is why….most of them are making precisely what they need to do to remain elective. These “leads” will postdate the way the current of air is drifting at that point in time. If you of all time take heed to Limbaughs show, he makes not change his idealogy, he has not for the last 20 months. It makes not affair who is in business office, makes not affair if you are Shrub, Chenny, Pelosi, McCain, etc, if you do something against his idealogy, you are locomoting to get named on it.
These Leads are destructing the res publica, they are the political equivalent to attorney. Thoughts is what makes this land potent….not compromise. What of all time the best thoughts are (be it liberal or conservative) should be contended all over, minds changed, and the best embossed to the top. This is the exact reason why McCain wo not be acquiring my vote. I do not want mortal who has travelled all over to the early face to “compromise”, I want somebody who will destruct the early face, then convey them all over to our point of perspective. Thats standing up on head teacher.
Precisely, on all three points.
It was not especially the older safety device that voted with the Republican. For instance, Beatrice Webb and Whitehouse are comparatively novel.
And former succeeders - Donna Edwards
You are right, but look at the free energy and the anti-war message of Obama’s young champions. That terrific grouping has to get all the middle of the roaders a spot (very) unquiet.
Chimpy states he wo not take any propagations…He stated the Business firm should pass the US Senate variant now…
Pan troglodytes: “the senators went through a full measure (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) and have presented that protecting amurika is a way number”
“I will not take any temporary extenshun” (why dont you want to protect of America chimpy?)
“not going through bill will imperil the protection of murkin citizens… get it harder to unveil terrist plots… must not let this fall out. give thanks u very a lot.
MSNBC somebody: “there u have it, the President has forced an argumentation in the Amandine Aurore Lucie Dupin”
I love the outcome that Marcy Winograd had got on Jane Harmon. And Donna’s Brobdingnagian winnings last dark must be directing shock waves back to Jane and lots of the others who gained their primary elections last go about. Donna mislaid 2 months ago and came up back with an impact. This could take place to any one of them.
More primary elections please.
Yep. Donna Jonathan Edwards (it helps when you’ve acquired a marvellous campaigner). And Howie’s work in determination full people for us to back up has been enormous.
B.S. - not you, bush.
Bah humbug.
I hope Conyers holds profligate to what he’s request for earlier making anything.
Ai not that the verity…
You’d believe Republican would at least be request themselves in private whether they truly want to give all over this sort of powerfulness to the next, presumptively Democratic, Chief Executive.
He genuinely believes we are stoopid huh? If the instruments are so of import to protect us, an propagation would ever be good. Maked he occupy questions? I hope soul in the insistence nails him on this. Wait, it is MSM, of course of instruction not.
Yea, they have made a muckle, but others could have made the like with the chance.
We need fresh refreshing human faces and the full thoughts can be went through along.
I today steadfastly support term limits. The welfares overbalance the hazards.
They must have a Programme B that makes not regard passing anything all over, an Oct Surprise of some variety.
If we had got term limits we’d misplace people like Russ Feingold, Saint Patrick Leahy, Chevvy Waxman…
And for every Teddy boy President John F, there is an arlen spector, a jesse helms, a john Warner, a john Mccain.
Do the maths. The shite acquires to lodge about and it’s not worth it.
We have people like Donna Jonathan Edwards and so forth coming up up.
2 footing in congress and perhaps 1 6 years footing in the senate can be 10 months as a congress critter. that plenty recollective in my book to do plenty of full.
Nope, no questions. It was one of those where he tells “rant rant murkin peeple. thanks you.” and storms off.
fyi - i went away an input here and at emptywheel last dark. some other propagation of the PAA is on the schedule for the Business firm today
We need to civilize them alternatively (in my view). Get more people mired in the procedure (as we are making via the entanglement). Elections are staggeringly expensive (for us as tax remunerators, and lets even more corporal impression on the nominees). Note how lots of of the tenacious term Republican have today cease. In one case the lance is up for them, there is no retentive as very much interest in resting.
And Chimpy seemingly cognises about it. He’s trusting his argument of “I wo not sign an propagation” will get the US Senate to shoot down the propagation so he makes not have to negative it.
PAA II: The Saturnia pavonia Strikes Back
I’m not mad about any “salvage us from ourselves,” controls, but the job with term limits on congress is that it makes permanent unelected professional staff people the existent powerfulness and elective congress as nominal heads.
Splendid item on the unelected professional staff!
Permanent elective faculty people? Who are they?
From todays WSJ editorial
The licking of these antiwar amendments agency the statute law today moves to the Firm in a potent place. Verbaliser Nancy Pelosi is in the Dodd-Obama camp, but 21 Blue Domestic dog Democrat have directed her a missive locution they are felicitous with the Senate bill. She may attempt to go through the limitations that neglected in the US Senate, and Republican should state her to get their four hour period. This is a conflict Senator McCain should want to have corrected up through Election Solar day, with Democrat having to explicate why they want to hamstring the best arm - real-time surveillance - we have against al Ida.”
Nit-pick: Obama remained up through cloture and only lost the final vote (not “votes”) on transition. I do not okay of his going away early, but you get it sound worsened than it was. If there’s a narrative in his departure early it would look to be: why made Obama blow a chance to place the not-voting issue more unwaveringly slow him?
I idea each congress critter takes in a novel slating of faculty.
In the clip that I have said FDL, we have locomoted from crisis to crisis, career authorship petitioning. There has been small clip for early activeness or preparation. I am astounded at how a good deal Jane and Christy and all have made.
OT - Guy on MSNBC states Sec Def William Henry Gates stole on ice and bust his shoulder.
The ballot yesterday truly peeved me off. And then simply a few minutes ago I saw Shrub on TV baleful the Firm to come up up with a measure but like the US Senate. In one case once more he was victimization the familiar scare the public tactics that unless they pass what the US Senate went through that we wo not be capable to cognise what the terrorists are making. Bullshit! I was so huffy that I named my Congressional Repp., John Yarmuth’s business office in American capital. I said the adult female respondent that I cherished Yarmuth to say Pelosi to stand up up to Shrub and not cave in on this bill. I as well named Mitch McConnells business office and stated the adult female respondent his phones that I was profoundly upset that McConnell voted for the Senate Bill. I stated her that he manifestly makes not support the regulation of jurisprudence because he wants to change electrical circuit the sound procedure by yielding Telecommunications unsusceptibility. I said her that I would be offerring to run for whoever runs against him and that we are timeworn of him India rubber stumping everything Shrub makes. I said her I cognise he makes not care about any of this but I cherished to permit him cognise in any case. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
thanks.
I intended unelected.. here.
There is no such thing as permanent unelected staff in congress.
Full morn from L.A. Donna Edward’s win is a brilliant topographic point in this otherwise bleak-feeling a.m.
Some forenoons only warrant a downhome spiritual. Constructs convinced idea for the four hours, at least for me:
Ya, I do not hold with Obama, but it is decent to realise how he enlivens people. He has an existent Reaganesq (or John Fitzgerald Kennedy) mode of utterring that looks to vibrate with young people, and infants crosswise the res publica. I do hope he beatniks Edmund Hillary so she can formally go into retreat.
He was late for a mass meeting in Madision Wisc.
Wow, more mis-information from the WSJ. I wonder if the stock prices are even correct in that rag. As any well individual cognizes, there is nothing in the statute law that hampers the intelligence service community of interests power to compile info. Only places in safeguards and did away with ex post facto unsusceptibility.
They are the experts on congressional process who function on the faculty of congresswomen and peculiarly help the fresh representatives stay extinct of snipe hunts. If representatives time restricted, the political political parties get groups of permanent expert staff people, designated to novel representatives/adult females to “guide” them.
Yielded the two-to-one bulk that we saw yesterday going through that terrible statute law, I’d anticipate them to affect the entire bill of right fields if there were a Consitutional normal.
For a really efficacious fresh Constitutional Normal, none of the current congresscritters would be let a ballot. This would need to be citizens only and completely grassroots. Opinion poll show a two-to-one bulk declining telecommunication unsusceptibility and passing up the job of Irak.
Each Congress somebody hires their “own” staff but they do it from the pond of faculty that have already been doing work on the Mound for the most part. Therefore the “permanent unelected professional staff fellow members.”
This is essentially what fell out in Sacremento after Calif imposed legislative term limits.
It’s an representative of the Jurisprudence of Unintended Face Effects and is existent. Unless you mean to state that common people can only work on Capital Mound for x amount of clip, regardless of the place that would be even more unfeasible than term limits in general.
young people, and infants
whoa
Full forenoon Scarer, from a lofty Constitutional Democrat.
Good really, I would like her to rest in the senate. I consider that when she is no recollective heading for the hills for President, she can/will be a very much potent vocalization - sort of like how Kerry and President Kennedy got potent all over time.
This precious small to do with protecting the “murkin’ peeple” and everthing to do with forefending tests for war criminal offences.
Although I’m still nerve to estimate extinct how an disposal official can acknowledge to the employment of waterboarding, that is already illegal, and not force an contiguous probe that looks into who authorised it.
Must be a “Diddly Bauer- Tick Time Bomb” freedom in the constitution that we do not cognise about.
It should be named the “Cover Our Collective Prats” bill.
Hey, it could be cognized as Erythroxylon coca!
i conceive the Fundamental law we have done work, if the general assembly would use it the right way.
That is completely a phoney powerfulness to care about. Nonsense.
There are no unelected congress staff that would be an entrenched and going up powerfulness. End of Tale. next statement to term limits???
I’m confident that Republican and evangelicals would happen a fashion to heap the normal and compose Christian religion into the fresh constitution. I do not consider we can lay on the line such an thing.
Condition limits, to pose it gently, are assinine. They have it in Great Lakes State and it’s been a catastrophe. Institutioinal “remembering” has been lessened, administrative officials nowadays have more powerfulness than legislators and plenty of novel legislators come up to business office deplorably unlearned of the numbers. Condition limits were encouraged in Wolverine State by right offstage factor as some other agency of counteracting the Democrat. The ultimate term limits should pass off at the vote box by the volition of the people.
and the tribunals and the disposal
Butea monosperma,
There are a lot of elective business offices in the federal, state and local authorities that are term trammelled.
There is no integral grounds not to do it for congress. END OF Narration.
It is dead executable, governed and has gained along with some downsides. I believe the welfares preponderate the perils.
MI elective unqualified functionaries who made not cognise what to do.
LOL. Oh, I’m kind of novel to this political material. Thanks for guardianship me consecutive!
When you phone or e-mail your congressional interpreters, pups, about Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, point extinct what went on to Al Wynn. Prompt them that there are an outstanding a lot of people extinct here that still care about the constitution, and will really act in order to protect it.
I be down witticism OG.
Raven - had got you realized it earlier? We were in stitches in this house!
I’ve already named my Representacritter and Pelosi’s business office and yielded them the summing up in reaction to Chimpy’s argument this morn.
You do cognize that Obama Missy, like, buried to vote?
And then, there is “Dance with Obama” by Obama miss.
Bad for scrapping your post, Scarer, with some merriment.
By the clip elective spokespersons have a bass appreciation of the numbers they are then constrained to go forth. Condition limits are simply a right backstage gambit to counteract the Democratic Political party in Wolverine State. Wherefore do you conceive the Republican forced for Presidential term limits? They made not want to realise some other Franklin Delano Roosevelt acquiring election after election.
Are you grievous? Gotta be a jest, or, good “what eva!” excessively fussy smoozing her style to Holeywould. !
As to term limits, I’m far more concerned in federal campaign funding.
If we do not use up embodied money extinct of elections, nothing will of all time change.
This is the only fashion the Defence budget will of all time shrivel. As tenacious as lobbyists can exhausted USD 250,000 dollar bills to get a 50 000 000 contract, we can telefax, call, & compose all we want (and I do in any case) and nothing will of all time change.
Nothing.
And I am confident from empiric grounds that the endangerments far outbalance the welfares. Condition limits have been debatable for the grounds named by bluetoe2, myself and others in the provinces where they’ve been imposed. Scrapping the electors of provinces by expression “they elective unqualified functionaries” is an attempt to parry the world. Your cure is worse than the disease and goes away the permanent bureaucratism with the powerfulness as the bureaucratism cognises it can only wait extinct any changes by the fresh common people.
You dissent, I cognize.
Although I’m still stressful to calculate extinct how an disposal official can acknowledge to the utilization of waterboarding, that is already illegal, and not force an contiguous probe that looks into who authorised it.
Last hebdomad, Snowy Business firm spokesman Tony Fratto expressed that Shrub authorised those waterboardings and would regard making so in the future reckonning of portion. In former lyric, our Commander in chief is a confessed practising war criminal. Farther, under the Yamashita Standard of the Ism of Dictation Duty, those in a places of potency must act to forbid war breakings inside their domains of obligation. Yamashita was put to death for not making so.
Specifically, Nancy Pelosi is foreclosing the Business firm from using up activity to halt Shrub from perpetrating farther war breakings, that makes her simply as hangdog as Yamashita.
On Tues dark, Metropolis Room headed for the hills into Ms. Ettinger at an election-watching party in Greenwich Settlement and inquired how thing moved at the poll.
“I made not get a chance to vote today because I’m not registered to vote in Novel House of York,” she informated.
So where is Obama Missy registered to vote?
“Novel Jersey.”
Um, but made not Novel Garden State as well hold a primary?
Dead on target. The job, she explicated, was that she was ill in Novel House of York Metropolis and was ineffectual to get back crossways the Hudson River River to the canvass in Jersey Urban center.
“I was in Grand Canyon State for the Super Bowl - every clip I get in the plane I get ill,” expressed Ms. Ettinger, who made bring off to get it to the Svedka Fembot election returns party at Chinatown Brasserie at La Fayette and Outstanding Mary Harris Jones streets. (The Fembot campaign for the Snowy Firm, the Svedka merchandising managing director assured us, is not a comment in any style on Edmund Hillary Rodham Hilary Rodham Clinton, who got the better of Mr. Obama in both Novel York and Fresh New Jersey.)
LOL. And we all cognise how FAR NJ is from NY and how hard it is to bump the burrow or the GW bridge. Plus it was eaten that hour interval, and good, she made not want to use up off her Bama trunks and piling heels.
Give thanks you.
My point just.
I mean we’re talk gd war offenses, not a “3rd rate burglary”, and the best our “leading” in congress can do is attempted to smother an oscitancy!
i consider the Organic law we have done work, if the legislative assembly would use it right.
The thing that we urgently need is a sovereign judicature that rules stupid statute law (like yesterday’s bill) unconstitutional.
The former brilliant topographic point in this a.m.’s tidings, for those who could care:
Perhaps we can get an intern to yield him a bump job, so we can accuse him.
Yea, and when everybody acquires to jump up and down about the “younker vote” I rest the fussy sceptic that I am. I’ll conceive it when I understand it.
I only named Pelosi and went away a subject matter to stand up up to Shrub on this one. I likewise sent on her number and Yarmuth’s number to ally. We need to inundate their business offices with calls to allow them cognize we are beat life about them standing up up for the Organic law. We ca not let them consider that their vote wo not be noticed. They need to cognise that we are paid attending.
Wherefore do I feel there’s a basket about here somewhere?
And it’s acquiring heater by the minute.
Public finance is the first step for cleanup up the election process.
Condition limits makes not mean an individual term. I am disruptive by electing mortal to business office who makes not see the numbers or how thing work for various months. We need consecrate legislators who hit the anchorred turning tail.
I do not want legislators hightailing it for business office. I want them making what they are nonrecreational to do - pass.
Jeff Gannon!
They have demonstrated up so far en masse shot (and with parts!). And, good, then you have the 80 twelvemonth older female pair on the word last nighttime. One wo not vote for Sir Edmund Hillary because she is not positive the state is said for an adult females to be President of the heretofore. The former wo not vote for Barack because in her view the body politic is not ready up to now for an African American. But the determining factor? The first adult female then moves to the TV newsman and apologises for her ally being slanted. “-)
If Obeah can animate lots of dems to occupy to the public opinion poll, it would be a full thing for the coating dress suit and perhaps sweep in a better congress.
One time a D pres is elected it stiff to be realized if they will steer a fresh class for the country. The marks so far are largely shibboleths. Let’s understand who the locker is.
It would not the first time I was incorrect.
The thing that we urgently need is a sovereign tribunal that rules stupid statute law (like yesterday’s bill) unconstitutional.
yea, I intended to admit the 3 branches of authorities.
I do not believe public finance will wing. But, we could ask TV, radio and print to yield a sure am’t of clip, infinite etc to the political campaign. And we could get it illegal for fellowship and political action committees to lend to political political campaigns.
good, me neither!
I am turbulent by electing person to business office who makes not realise the numbers or how thing work for respective months
Malus pumilas and Orangeness. Cognising how to sail the bureaucratism is not the like thing as cognizing Issues. Part of the world of elective functionaries and specially legislators is executing element service. That lets in portion common people work through the bureaucratism at all levels. These people do not simply sit down up on high and get annunciations and mandates. It’s as well acquiring down into the widow and serving folk extinct.
In the terminal it’s down to We the Citizenry. that is the detail These are our rights and it is up to us to maintain them.
Yep, I’m with you on this one. I’ve been nerve to place the best route to a Constitutional challenge to this atrociousness if it gets jurisprudence.
On the early foreparts, my Constitutional Rule would do away with the Electoral College, ban all corporal money in political relation and have a life ban on buttonholing by former elective functionaries (in fact, I would choose to censor the professing of buttonholing altogether).
Bounding people to one term would result in topsy. You’d mislay all organisational and adjective cognition every 2 twelvemonth (in the house).
Give thanks you Scarer!
Cheney’s tightlipped, corporate-controlled authorities used up one behemoth leap forward yesterday, thanks to a cluster of Noel Cowards.
My job: I do not want to dwell in Hawkshaw Cheney’s The States.
I want to inhabit in the USA the laminitis yielded us.
I want my state back, you dickheads!
One thing I wish we had got is a replacing for the Toast of Loyalty. Or else of focus on the masthead, I wish we could focus on bearing on the Fundamental law. Something like:
I pledge to reward and preserve the Organic law of the Joined Provinces of of America, and to prize the Protective coverings and Exemptions it gives to all, with gratitude for the Approvals of Autonomy left to us by its Authors.
I’d very much instead have my kid locution this every morn than that former thing.
Good, if the coming up tide scenario is applicable….Sen. Obama aided to convey Donna Jonathan Edwards small gravy holder right off the shoring and into the bass blue ocean.
2 footing then
She’s brain discredited due to silicone polymer leak.
Sign language a Request will help?
Have not we been down this route earlier, with only episodic succeeder, and only then when ALL THE Michigan WERE Forced Extinct.
This is about money, unmistakable and simple, as are most of what the politicos vote for. To be certain, there are principled Democratics, but not enough to transport the twenty, in fact not even close.
In some manner we have to impinge on them in the wallet. We have to occupy the progressive move, and employ it in a fiscal way that has a direct effect on our Democratic pols. Regional subspecies and support them is for certain one approach, and a full one. But we are disseverring extinct cash in hand when we do that, in that each of us support those in our own district for the most part.
This motility has to be very much bigger (therefore large involvement as a grouping), and to state in no incertain footing that the pols fiscal reinforcement will no recollective be there, unless they back us. And that “menace” needs to have sued and clout slow it.
Nutrient for idea. Bb
Ok, so the Fundamental law is being trod on once more fitting in to this article. What are all of you travelling to do about it? I realise posts on this site from time to clock simply like this and up to now you never understand any activity with the elision of aspersions against Shrub and the atrocious older Republican.
Kurt,
What are all of us travelling to do about it? Good, on the face of it you have not been paid attending to anything beyond the “slurs” you depict. FDL and plenty of others have got together forces to petition, call, compose letter, etc. against Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act as good as support progressive nominees. As some other placard designated extinct, we have been doing work very difficult inside the Creation Male parent scheme to turn over this without winner. It is a discouraging clip right today. Let people vent and do your preparation earlier picking apart.
The right of the people to be secure in their individuals, business firm, document, and personal effects, against inordinate huntings and ictus, shall not be profaned, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, backed up by curse word or avouchment, and peculiarly depicting the spot to be sought, and the mortals or thing to be prehended.
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By curse word, that agency a someones business office can allow them this powerfulness (presumptuous they have occupied the swearing of that business office, and I say you could reason that they would need to bear on that expletive to hold the powerfulness but everyone cognises that is a laughter).
So thence no paperwork needed. Looking on the balance of the textual matter peradventure given to people at a province level as good, certinly to co-president.
Anyhow they acquired unsusceptibility in any event so that way then, today, and in the future they can reach all over anything and you go to put away (never them).
You’d consider Republican would at least be request themselves in private whether they truly want to pass on all over this sort of powerfulness to the next, presumptively Democratic, Chief Executive
Hmmm, append this to the listing of grounds why Dems voted against the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act reform: they want to descry on Republican when in powerfulness and screw them to the paries! I only wish…
Elections are term limits, the only one conditioned in the constitution.
Total halt.
Dame Ellen Terry McAuliffe, for one. He’s no retentive a congressional staff member but he was for a recollective clip. And believe if Tweety distinct to state on as a staff member for a commission or some other repp after Tip Neill renounced (snuffed it?). There are all sorts of bottom eaters extinct there.
Tip Neill withdrew in ‘86 and was supplanted by Joe John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Bobby’s boy). There was an interesting volume about the congressional subspecies to supplant Tip coroneted The Subspecies for the Eighth (8th CD of MA).
I was in that district and it was the only time I’ve had regular canvassing phone calls.
We need to get disembarrass of entrenched powerfulness that gets constituted with never termination footing in business office.
Corret me if I fault, but both Ian Welsh and Kirk Tater both answerred to your “thought” most specifically when you boosted the thought earlier, and you never replied them, nowadays you are at it over again. Only what specific part of no do not you rather realize. Condition limits is a Repub simple answer to a complex job for simple minds to hold on. If the writers of the Organic law regarded your term limits as a viable reply, term limits would have been scripted in the Organic law at the formula or amended in the original Bill of Right fields, not a later-day chemical reaction, deducted of political hate for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. At the internal political level of Congress, what is necessary to run efficaciously is not only extremely complex but postulates an forward province of connectedness as good as disposal powers. All asks time to tack together such organisations and should the organisation turn out effectual, nowadays would be confronted with taking apart at the terminal of an abreviated term, it would not be handed all over to any political replacement of the developer, no man of affairs would paw all over his evolutions to a contender, a politico would be no dissimilar. On this hardheaded level, your term limits is not only counterproductive, but damaging to an efficacious generative political procedure. Append this to the graceful rational furnished by Kirk Tater and Ian Welsh. If you cannot be sound with, there is no point in transporting on a treatment with you, it would be like eating pearls to swine, you have not renderred any substantive backup to your statement then or today. Please refrain from elevating the subject once again, it is viewed judicious to stay still and be idea a sap, than open your mouth and take all doubt.
sheesh, corret = correct
One farther watching, by term limits you occupy away the right of a vote public to continue a representative that is effectual for that district for as tenacious as the representative stiff satisfactory, trammelling the populaces right to optimum political mental representation as they realize fit..
And were not the Republicans, in one case upon a clip, a party that utterly, wholly and entirely were in favor of protecting citizens against indefensible and illegal Stalinism by the province? Where are all the ‘black helicopter’ confederacy types that were locomoting to fall in reserves and use up up implements of war against the regime to support the the likes ofs of David Koresh and Horny Weaver finch? What occurred to those guys? You do not pick up so a lot as a cheep from them any longer. I guess they are to a fault frightened shitless to state anything. I’m not and I want my Organic law and Bill of Rightfields back!
They are all caught on the Daffo Alice Paul bandwagon.
But hey, my local paper Eventually spread over the number of warrantless surveillance! Very amiss, of class as they simply took hold of something off of the conducting wire as fought to assignment a newsperson to the narrative. Certain would have been decent to have held some insurance coverage of the number Earlier the Senate shed our Constitutional rights ito the Dumpster!
An unstained face at the root of the Obama phenomenon:
Welcome to the fresh gaffer; a peck like the older chief. . .
Short comment from the clause I referred above:
“An Obama presidential term (or a Clinton administration, should her campaign at last predominate), would thus correspond a refining or accommodation in American strange insurance policy, but no let-up in American imperialism’s drive to war and conquering, that springs up not extinct of the encephalons of George W. Shrub and Richard Cheney, but extinct of the historic crisis of American and existence capitalist economy.
Obama is just the ware of an efficacious merchandising campaign that has applied culture mediums retail stores running from Prince Rupert Rupert Murdoch to The Land to trade this novel variation of a very older product-the Democratic Political party “ally of the people,” antecedently substantiated in the “insurgent” campaigning of Jemmy Howard Carter in 1976, then in the “adult male from Hope,” Bill Hilary Rodham Clinton himself, in 1992. An Obama administration would no more correspond a fundamental change in American political relation than the election of Howard Carter and Hilary Clinton made, and if Keith Rupert Murdoch & Co. dreaded it would, he would never have been permitted anyplace near the Snowy Firm.”
The right of the people to be secure in their souls, business firm, document, and personal effects, against undue hunts and raptus, shall not be profaned, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, backed up by swearing or avowal, and specially drawing the spot to be sought, and the individuals or thing to be clutched.
I hope you have it attached to remembering
Bad, I overslept and am late…
But I have commenced to utilize the 4th Amendment as my signatiure on all my email.
I may print it on labels and place it on extroverted escargot mail gasbag.
yesterday, I email my Senator - Feinstein about my personal positions on her
ballot record reckonning turnout with this Disposal. At a lower place is my letter:
Only today, as you cognize, the Senate voted to salvage the telecom’s from veneer the judicatures and affording the this Disposal a blank check to do what they want, over again! Wherefore?
But after the ballot was through in the Senate, the intelligence wires were afloat with what we cognised was dead on target, that indeed the telecom’s made tap American’s with extinct stocks, per the Snowy Firm Press Secretarial assistant, D. Pereno. Wherefore?
What are you making to protect our Autonomies? Wherefore is it that you face each time with this Disposal? Wherefore? Where is my vox through you?
I may be a little constituent of what you do, but I have voted each time in your support, but you have not through with the like for me. Each hour interval, I hope that the Senate and my Senators will start to vocalise what the people need and want and have inquired for, but each time it has been smitten down with the reinforcement locomoting to plump for large corps that salvage them from the people and suits! ME! Wherefore?
I am so foiled with the deficiency of authorities, as yet there is to a great deal of it! You get wellness care on my dime bag, but I endure from not acquiring it?
Senator Feinstein, my lack of seeing the major inside information in what comes up crossways your desk may be large, but what I do see is when my Senator votes to back up and yield unsusceptibility to both this Disposal and Corps and permit fear be your visual sensation. Wherefore?
For months, its been the like thing and for months to come up it will rest that mode unless fresh and brisk nous get in authorities. Start conceiving in a dissimilar way and with future minds .
This Disposal has gone forth authorities in a scrap dump fashion and the olfactory perception has temporary so bass that every government agency is set up and as yet your leading has major influence both in vote and vocalism only face with them because NO one hitherto has been kept accountable. Wherefore?
In shutting, you have furtherred the job with extinct account? why?
Is making the right thing the right thing to do? If there are reasons beyond the worlds cognition, that I realize, but with extinct some feedback, I can only take for granted you play in to the political relation of the minute.
Unfeignedly,
my name.
Constitutional encroachment under the color of jurisprudence assisted and abetted by “Asselephants” after the fact for the welfare of a “bodied nobility” hell on earth flexed on interminable net at all cost. Perpetuate the existent free energy bringing scheme by theft Iraqi Oil and marketing it to US. But as the settlements were mercantiled by a corrupt English Rex and his incarnate age groups in colonial offence. The Irak Oil Plot!!!!! 60.8 000 000 000 in profit for Exxon Mobile piece we American pass 11 000 000 000 bucks a mean solar day to fill up our gas tanks, their hard cash cow………… WTF!!!!
Is it live or is it “Memorex” No simply brainwashed psyches………..
How about American protectionism for oil and motorcar!!!!! Through with our economic system existent good all over 35 months??
“We Need a Constitutional Democratic Political party”
No doubt
“Obama voted for the Fundamental law in early votes [update: and against cloture]; he was not show for the final vote; we will need more “yes we can.” Hilary Clinton took to be somewhere else. I presume we will not once more find out campaign statements about balloting ‘present.’”
Prompt me why I’m alleged to experience full about ballot for either one of these irresponsible bullets? Oh yea, so a goliath makes not win?
Thanks Straw man for the good formulated and idea extinct station, it covers all the base of operations about the menaces that this Edition of thew Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill stands for… Once more Thanks..
I gestural over again and directed the postulation to all my physical contact and I included the postdating remarks:
This FISA bill must be stopped up. Our constitution and the future of our res publica look on it. An untied executive is expressly what the initiation begetter struggled against and included in the ground mark document our constitution safe guards against such an one executive.
Please do everything possible to halt this Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act bill from decorous jurisprudence. It will stir up distrust in our regime and certainly there will be former Issues that wan in comparing to any former thing this res publica has stood in it’s story.
Last hebdomad, Snowy Firm spokesman Tony Fratto stated that Shrub authorised those waterboardings and would view making so in the future reckonning of lot. In former lyric, our Generalissimo is a confessed exercising war criminal. Farther, under the Yamashita Standard of the School of thought of Dictation Duty, those in a places of dominance must act to forestall war offenses inside their arenas of obligation. Yamashita was put to death for not making so.
Specifically, Nancy Pelosi is forestalling the Firm from using up activeness to halt Shrub from perpetrating farther war breakings, that makes her but as shamefaced as Yamashita.
It bowls over my mind. What ARE they believing?
This from the NPR site:
1974: Plug Drawed on President Nixon and his Pipe fitters
The Firm Bench Commission issues articles of impeachment against Richard M. Richard M, in part, for his function in clearing wiretaps on 17 souls, in a confederacy to work the final result of the 1972 presidential election.
1975: US Congress Acquires an Bawling out at Church Audiences
Headed by Sen. Frank Church, a Senate commission seeming into CIA and Federal Bureau of Investigation intelligence agency trading operations sees a wash list of ills, letting in centuries of warrantless wiretaps located on antiwar and civil rights leadership, such as Martin Martin Luther Rex, Jr., as good as electronic surveillance of working class trade union leadership, pupil groups, reporters and even former Snowy Business firm staff members and a U.S. Congresswoman.
My, how chop people bury. Those who do not retrieve account are designated to iterate it.
Taxpayers clams were victimized for this intrusion of seclusion it only stopped up when the measures were not being nonrecreational. AT&T and most co partricipated I consider their was one comprehensive examination[any or two that declined as well even if you were not an endorser if calls were routed through them thay were recorded - and this was through on all traffic in legion routiung Stations for 5 months until a At&T blower slopped the edible beans.|
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Bloggers need to get the intelligence extinct Madonna Landrieu needs to go down her conributors need to be got through her constituients need to be informed She votes like a Republican so whats the departure direct a few of these guys back to the existent cosmos and mayhap they will get the content - the like for Tim Johnson in South Dakota who was once more in a comma butterfly.These people were monished. Diane ” Sion First Feinstein afforded us Mukasey and voted for this as good. Physical contact Republican and Democrat and express outrage all over this encroachment of our Constitutional Rights and lets petition for a Constitutiuonal Convenntion and look at the independent requirment information for filing against these facists.
It is hankerred delinquent the fashion this res publica is locomoting
Time after time she neglects to stand for her elements. Support Mukasey to recompense waterboarding and torture for ” W” because he permits Zion to get 1000000000000s of one dollar bills in defence and do what they please in Gaza and the West Bank.He will occupy Republic of Iraq and Islamic Republic of Iran because that is what Likud wants. Today they proclaimed edifice in Due east Capital of Israel in misdemeanor of all understandings like the fencing and the colonies that we give for with our tax clams. She will get the AIPAC clams and the lot jerk will go on, and it genuinely makes not thing if our Organic law is trodden in the procedure. It is wrong-she is incorrect and we better wake up.American are really interested about the protection of State of Israel and want a merely ataraxis but honorable factors we are not and Dianne is one of the grounds.We support Zion nowadays we need to support our Organic law.
Some unstained beginning. Sir Edmund Percival Hillary Hilary Rodham Clinton is an unilateralist.She distrusts International establishments and her support for the warfare was not an anomoly.Authorities change was the Hilary Clinton insurance and she will not even occupy atomic arms off the tabular array in Islamic Republic of Iran.Her Paries Street parts are 10 multiplication that of Obama. She is Momma Warbucks when it comes up to the military industrial organization and affords them whatsoever they want. She erudite her object lesson with Mrs Yasser Arafat and nowadays will support Sion blindly any they do.
They bombard Lebanese Republic with cluster bombs she votes agaist forbidding them in civilian countries. Obama voted to censor their use . She favors the usage of landmines like the megs ingrained by Yisrael in Lebanmon. They in the main blow kids to spot but thats ok if Sion wants to apply them. The fense on Palestinian land is ok ,colonies in misdemeanour of international and US brokered understandings are ok as good. Obama favors dialog and mutual anchorred
If you consider he shams his resistance to war then you have not picked up him verbalize against it and he made it patch escaping for the US Senate when that place was not good recognised. He has all over 400,000 on line of reasoning subscribers and makes not occupy Political action committee money. He favors public funding and we need to get slow that because USD has depraved our authorities. Who do you support Lyndon LaRouche? USA is not for a socialist avarice but a refuge net and complete open oportunity to break oneself and advance in gild based on a regime that advances the general social welfare.Obama may not be all thing for all people but he is the best chance I have realized in my lifespan to get our regime back in the custody of the people and recover our respect in the macrocosm