US Senate votes to Reverse 4th Amendment-Amnesty to Telecommunication
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Afford us a listing of those for and against.
Start cleanup and keeping your weapon systems, maintain the ammunition box unbarred and close at mitt. Its travelling to get existent surly and we need to gain to get this state back from these red coat commi’s.
SJ, McCarthy’s initials are JM. I propose fashioning your protrude civilization mention more clear–it helps get your point crosswise.
Likewise, superb how you conveyed up the 2nd amendment. Thanks for cueing us that Senate Republican all voted NO on the proscription-on-unsusceptibility-amendment.
This was satire at its best. Standing up standing ovation for you, SJ.
Simply let the tribunals of Oceania-I flock American Trades union-I pot the full older U.S.A.(Supreme Being sign the Male parent Land) settle down this.
Who made non realise this coming up?
Or else of angrily blogging about this or holding back for the next pol you elect to work out this job for you, I propose we could use up more direct forms of activities.
1. Use Encoding, for both store (TrueCrypt, FileVault, LUKS, PGP) and communication theory (PGP/OTR/Tor). Do non get it easy for them to espy on you.
2. De-commit from these criminal telecos. Do non give your bills or switch suppliers. Stop gainful the surveillance machine.
Hit the telecos in the bottom-argument and in their public-mental image, where it genuinely hurts. Do non wait for someone else to do it, start today!
Pelosi should be haled to non let Harman anyplace near this league…
Let Conyers occupy the lead and disregard the Blue Canis familiaris.
@postmodernist, and only how are we called to smart our elective voices who’ve dealt out their components?
Today I realize wherefore Democrat-commanded Firm and Senate have an blessing valuation 10 points toned than than the President of the . Wherefore is non anyone vocation them out on this?
I too encounter it implausibly lame that neither Hilary Rodham Clinton nor Obama had got the backbone to vote, even though both are in the vicinity canvassing for votes in the Potomac River-country primary elections.
@SPD
Do non vote for these “spokespersons” and do non count on them. Crash their fund-elevating cases, tear down their propaganda and say their champions what they made today and who they genuinely stand for.
What is for sure, is that they no retentive stand for us, so let’s let out this political lampoon for what it is, a telephone service purchase-out.
There is a news for this.
It’s named Fascism. This place is travelling to the pits in a mitt handbasket and our “elective Functionaries” are non making the people command. ALL of these slimebag politicos need to be distant from business office and tested for the criminal offence of Non Supported THE Fundamental law. Oh good it was decent piece it endured. Bye Commonwealth. Oh wait, we articulated so long to that in 2000 when the Sovereign judicature appointive the prevaricator war criminal Shrub to the Snowy Firm. Adult male how far we have come down.
“Those who would yield up Indispensable Autonomy to buy a small Temporary Refuge, merit neither Autonomy nor Refuge”
Foundation Male parent Benzoin John Hope Franklin. He’s turn in his grave.
I as well want to point out. This was the mode of the 50’s. Retrieve how the 60’s and 70’s off out?
Commonwealth and freedom are account since the So-Named-Liberal-Culture mediums (SCLM) picked out our nominees. Fascism- delicate or ?? makes non mean anything any longer. Corps are heading for the hills Amerika.
Lay off observance First rudiment, NBC, CBS, Fox, and CNN word - completely - in protest.
Conceive about this for an internal wallop!
Ibrahim President Abraham Lincoln declared, “I understand in the near future a crisis drawing near that fazes me, and causes me to tremble for the refuge of our state. Corps have been vested, an epoch of corruptness will postdate, and the money powerfulness of the res publica will endeavor to draw out its reign by doing work upon the bias of the people, until wealthiness is combined in a few custody and the commonwealth is destructed.”
Felicitous Natal day Abe…
oh for shame, The States.
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Every senator who voted for that bill, or who made non show up to vote against that bill should be incriminated for breaking their consecrated curses to fend for the Organic law. I can only hope that the Bonk happens the wherewithal to register a SCOTUS suit to have the law stricken down as unconstitutional after the President likewise breaks his swearword to fend for the Fundamental law when he signs it in to law.
>The disposal tells that its surveillance program that pointed American and aliens victimisation installations and service based in the Joined Provinces was effectual. Disposal attorneys bring up as justification, both the Authorisation to Utilize Military Force to assail Al Qaida and the president’s war-devising powerfulness under the Consitution.
how beside the point and at last irrelevant this is likenned to freedom and the regulation of law.
Democrat vote for the measure:
Evan Bayh (D-IN), Uncle Tom Niggler (D-DE), Henry Martyn Robert Casey (D-PA), Kent Teodor Josef Konrad Korzeniowski (D-ND), Daniel Inouye (D-HI), The Virgin Landrieu (D-LA) Joe Lieberman (ID-CT), Blanche Abraham Lincoln (D-AR), Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Bill Admiral Nelson (D-FL), Ben Horatio Nelson (D-NE), Mark Pryor (D-AR), John Jay John D (D-WV), Cognizance Salazar (D-CO), Jim Martha Beatrice Potter Webb (D-VA), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
All Republican senators voted for the measure, demur for Lindsey Billy Graham (South Carolinas) who made non vote.
how beside the point and in the end irrelevant they all are equated to freedom and the regulation of law.
but today none of that affair. that tragical human failing of fearfulness. and so with fear in our Black Maria, we turn a body politic of free citizens into but some other attenuation, designated blotch on a mathematical function like all the others. what our regime expressed today is this: how beside the point and finally irrelevant freedom and the regulation of law is likenned to powerfulness and protection. and with that, we the people misplaced.
simply so we’re all clear, when this is heralded as a triumph, and the President of the dialogue about how safe we all are nowadays, here are the inside information you need to hold in mind:
we are nowadays as safe as all the res publicas on earth where there is no privateness, where there is no freedom from insupportable huntings, and where there is no power to dispute any abuses and shabbiness that may take place.
a lot of states like this come up to take care now. and none of them, non an individual goddamn one, are safe, secure and heeled.
for the disc, and so the right offstage of this body politic can say it in manifest and simple footing: freedom and polite autonomies are non the foeman of protection. they are the substructure. if you mess with that foot, you will attain insecurity and uprising.
I’ve ever inquired WTF is so hard about acquiring a stock warrant for a tap from a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act judge in the modern universe the telephone companies have demoed us with, where everybody is only a cellular phone away? If you do non want to be on call 2460 minutes a hour interval to sanction warrants, do non occupy the line!
And do non I recall the conclusion being got that the FISA warrant could even be incurred various(Hour?Years?) AFTER the surveillance set about?
Because time has been locomoting rearward since X-Four hour period, the telecoms society need retro unsusceptibility to guarantee the Torah of legal philosophy do non negate the Torah of nature patch we patiently wait the income tax return of the star-beady hellcats from the out area.
@polarice, I’ve locomoted us to red.
Bet you made non believe we could truly do that 
Oh, my.. hopes die last. Still ballot for these scambags? Plaing their plot by their rules? It will get worsened earlier it acquires any better! Until ALL ppl feel the squeezing no changes will use up effect - there needs to be monumental Polite Noncompliance and lawlessness earlier we get our exemptions back. BUT as retentive as we all play their secret plan we’ll be one step slow and being represented for fools and mortar kernel. Independency Mean solar day shall get a locale for Anti-Subjugation. Watch “Zeitgeist - The Picture” and “The Source Of All Evil” - realize if you’re ready to larn and re-delivered by sloughing off the spate hypnosis these control lunatics are guardianship us all in.
we could as good larn newspeak today.i love big blood brother.
The ‘Privacy Picks Form’ I accomplished demands my bank to protect my privateness. It makes non clear them to partake my info with whoever the Chief Executive or some regime authority picks out. State arcanums privileges sees to it my bank makes non cognise who they could be partaking my info with if they use the Net or if they use electronic computers that are attached to the Net, so I guess they’ll have to halt.
I was moving to advise this in any case after ODNI Microphone McConnell stated everyone how unsafe utilisation of the Net can be for Banks and early establishments. I was locomoting to advise that Banks would be heady to utilise intranets instead than the Cyberspace.
I’m felicitous to give for the exercise of messengers if that’s necessary; I understand that some terrorist organisations have set up it so.
I can has spotting?
I spy something red, snowy and blue…
oh, American.
In sincerity, this is the bad thing of all time and non even possible to regard rental this pass. At least they are retards but changelings are unsafe due to mislead intelligence agency.
Shame on AT&T.
We are on a downhill slide. Protecting a neglected strange insurance policy by indicating fingers inside our own borders. We could non bump Weapon of mass destruction elsewhere, but planting evidence inside our own borders will be lots easygoing. Martial Jurisprudence is simply a measure away. The cowpoke from Lone has changed state outlaw.
What is seldom brought up and I have never realized discoursed, is the query of wherefore the disposal and spooks want our medical records. What do our medical records have to do with terrorist act?
Let me start the discourse: They want our medical records so that:
1) they can garble them and get their dupes and the dupes household look mentally precarious.
2) they can incapacitate someone temporarily or assassinate undetected someone by putt something in the victim’s medicine.
3) So they can blackjack those who have a socially awkward disease or are occupying anti-sedative drugs or Sildenafil citrate or some early medicinal drug they would non discoursed in the culture mediums.
4) So they can blackjack people who are occupying excessively a lot of prescription drugs.
I am SO GLAD I do non live in the .
That stated, the current paranoia has distributed to the UK, and yielded recent evolutions, we do non look to be to a fault far slow.
BIG Blood brother IS Watched over YOU (very, very close!)
I’m bad, makes anyone genuinely consider Central Intelligence Agency/National Security Agency has non already roughened every public field encoding out there?
1. Use Encoding, for both store (TrueCrypt, FileVault, LUKS, PGP) and communication theory (PGP/OTR/Tor). Do non get it easy for them to descry on you.
It’ll be interesting, wo non it, when “anon beginnings” start leaking out info from Edmund Hillary or Obama’s emails or private phone calls when the next election comes up about. Consider it wo non occur? Say about Regulator Siegelman and early Democrat and what’s being through to them in Camellia State by republican fellow members of the Justness Section, all with the connivance of the local press. Fascism, Corporatism, whatsoever. Those of you who laugh it off and dissemble everything’s the like as of all time, hope you’re right. But it certain Energy Departments non look like it these hours.
2 symbolizations of fascism have stood up proudly slow the dais in the firm of US Congress for a tenacious clip, it is about time people commenced really realizing the thing that surround them. And til now no1 i cognize or radius to has of all time on the face of it realised these. Wherefore oh wherefore dont people realize the turd hit the rooter 
Wow, I realise lot’s of ills and critisism in these posts, but non one pragmatic thought or proposition to face these issues.
Unluckily, I do non have the result either. Proffers anyone?
Wow, I understand lot’s of ailments and critisism in these posts, but non one nosed thought or proposition to face these issues.
Unluckily, I do non have the answer either. Propositions anyone?
Every someone who is today helping time in prison house should demand to be set free, since we have today legitimatised criminal activeness.
There is no manner to relieve USA. The Sun has placed on republic and the recollective nighttime of fascism is upon us.
Hail the Imperium and our magnificent Loss leader, may he reign eternally.
It’s a disgrace but most people extraneous the technical school sphere will non care about this at all.
Citizenry seldom care about thing that do non at once impact them and undercover work on us is something that makes non straightaway bear on people in a touchable manner.
@ spiedupon
I concord with you, anyone who has made any research into Martin Luther Male monarch Jr has got a line about the blackjacking the Federal Bureau of Investigation made against him to seek and stop his motility.
They directed missive to him saying they would discover to the public that he was having an thing.
The regime wants these powerfulness so they can restrain and blackmail opposites who are non perpetrating offenses and dig up any dirt they can so they can pursue consensual offenses they would never acquire about if they were non undercover work without a stock.
Simply travels to turn out that our authorities is a clustering of Noel Cowards seeming to destruct our freedom. Seemingly, revolt is our only choice today. Full thing the province inventories are good stocked with. The clip to move is today, piece most of the interior armed service are overseas thievery oil. Exemption will return and nothing will stop us today from forcing out the evil disposal that has siezed the snowy firm. Recollective live the 2nd American Rotation!
This is perfectly rediculous, they are travelling to open up the net up to such a big cyberpunk eruption if they go on openning up people net connectedness. Non to name that this is perfectly unamerican, this is againsts what our land was constituted on. Stuff like this holds up and we’ll be communist like Communist China or Russian Confederation, I hope enough Americans do non sit down on thier thumbs and let this happene we need to do something.
Give thanks you for your post Mommas, postmodernist, this thing here, Kmuldoon, and others. Yes, there is small consciousness and interest in thing that on the face of it do non seem to touch people workaday livings. Conceive of, if you will, what it must be like to have prepared skills that were in one case upon to protect the people of your state from extraneous foemen today sour on and ill on those very people. Assay appearing in the mirror and rationalising that one.
I would simply like to point out that you guys do non really appear to cognise what ‘Fascism’ agency…
This is non an outstanding thing to have gone on, but it’s unsurprising. It’s besides non in misdemeanour of the constitution, as it only uses to not-citizens. If you want to speak to individual extraneous the US, and do non want to be espied upon, pen a missive.
As for the telephone records thing, the telephone companies have ever owned them, non the client. Telecoms is non a right, it’s a commercial divine service. If you want this stuff saved by law, get off your couch and go start a political political campaign.
-Kle.
A M E N to all of the to a lower place!
Who made non realise this coming up?
Alternatively of angrily blogging about this or holding back for the next politico you elect to figure out this job for you, I advise we could occupy more direct forms of activeness.
1. Use Encoding, for both entrepot (TrueCrypt, FileVault, LUKS, PGP) and communication theory (PGP/OTR/Tor). Do non get it easy for them to spot on you.
2. De-place from these criminal telecos. Do non give your bills or switch suppliers. Stop gainful the surveillance machine.
Hit the telecos in the bottom-argumentation and in their public-mental image, where it truly hurts. Do non wait for someone else to do it, start nowadays!
@what’s natural event:
buster the Russian Confederacy is non communist.
good after all the grandiloquence and exaggeration dies down, the monolithic coverup this corresponds will non die so easy.
ok alternatively of 10 months to come up out, it will occupy 20,
bottom argument- no style to get your fingers about the pharynx of a “yes” vote senator-
bump a fashion of communicating your displeasure, total disgust, and the fact they may merely have got EMEMIES.
@Klebert: You emphasised “I would simply like to point out that you guys do non really look to cognize what ‘Fascism’ way…”
You farther declared:
“This is non an outstanding thing to have passed off, but it’s unsurprising. It’s as well non in misdemeanour of the constitution, as it only employes to not-citizens. If you want to speak to someone extraneous the US, and do non want to be spotted upon, compose a missive.”
We all understand precisely what fascism is, it is “corporatism” a condition struck by Il Duce. It way a spousal relationship betwixt corps and the province.
As for you argument that “as it only uses to not-citizens.” What grade is your meter reading level? You evidently do non have the critical thinking skills to take part in a political preaching of this order of magnitude. so STFU.
John
@Klebert: You emphasised “I would merely like to point out that you guys do non really look to cognize what ‘Fascism’ way…”
You farther declared:
“This is non an outstanding thing to have come about, but it’s unsurprising. It’s likewise non in misdemeanor of the constitution, as it only uses to not-citizens. If you want to speak to person external the US, and do non want to be espied upon, compose a missive.”
We all understand precisely what fascism is, it is “corporatism” a condition minted by Benito Mussolini. It agency a spousal relationship betwixt corps and the province.
As for you argument that “as it only uses to not-citizens.” What grade is your indication level? You patently do non have the critical thinking skills to take part in a political preaching of this order of magnitude. so STFU.
John
The only thing we can do about shit like this is to vote against people who neglect to protect our Bill of Right fields. Second, call or pen a missive to each of their business offices to show your disdain for their votes on this issue.
John
PS regretful for the double posts
@dervheid:
Yield it a remainder:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/13/adult male-collarred-at-point-for-exploitation-mp3-participant/
Your small island dropped apart half a hundred ago.
And as a great deal as this state of affairs baffles me, anyone exploitation the condition “Fascist” to draw the current state of affairs in the US needs to use up a curative high school polysci family. John Ian Smith simply needs to confer with a lexicon - or chance someone who can do that for him.
If you want Fascism, but wait for universal wellness care…
I reborn a cluster of wide disordered pdfs on this subject to hypertext mark files with golf links to commendation. The assemblage is downloadable, lets in the Hepting v. AT&T and the ACLU v. National Security Agency cases, some Chromiums Reports, Congressional testimonial, and a few former points. The aggregation is here:
http://thewall.civiblog.org/rsf/NSA.HTML
Here is a nexus to the first of two articles I indited on the land site, BIG Blood brother IS Keeped an eye on YOU:
http://thewall.civiblog.org/rsf/big_blood brother_talons_on_you.hypertext markup language
The sec one is an aggregation of America Today insurance coverage linking to the Telecommunications turn all over CDRs (Call Information Records) to the National Security Agency without warrants or Department of Justice affadavits.
Cheers,
-dcm
For at least the last 6 calendar months i have indited everyone I can believe of and every representative/adult female I am let to indite by their stupid “rules”. I have indited my senators all over and all over on this issue, and i am sure one voted for and one against no affair what “we” want. I have too netmailed it all over and all over to my allies and home that are non in the technical school sphere and the bulk of them only do non “get” it. I am afraid the ground it has gone through is because they are already pressuring everyone on it. I hope the balance of the macrocosm by passes us with their cables and our dim authorities acquires what it merits.
Their is an older byword that “cognition is powerfulness…” and “down powerfulness debauchs perfectly…”
Good, this was sprang to come up since we as a commonwealth have afforded our regime right to execute “water embarkation.” This practice is what we put to monish the Soviet Union and early totalitarian body politics about.
So, “it is hard for someone to do the first evil act, but it is easygoing for someone to do the sec and oncoming Acts…” Philosophical system of the Nazi’s (water embarkment is the first, right surveilance of a country’s own people is the sec).
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Wherefore makes non Google cancelled encoding for gmail? It has a zillion former characteristics. Or are they part of the job?
@dervheid
Watch, hear, acquire, and pass it on (we need your help to modify and the cosmos) ..
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How about victimization an icon of the Organic law with an argument through it in stead of the moving picture of the snowy firm, or a couched Organic law.
@ ccx
Precisely
“If ye love wealthiness better than autonomy, the serenity of servitude better than the enlivening competition of freedom, go home from us in peacefulness. We inquire non your counsels or your weapons system. Crouch down and lick the custody that give you. May your irons set light upon you, and may descendants bury that you were our ruralists.”
~Samuel Samuel Adams
“It makes non use up a bulk to predominate … but instead an ireful, indefatigable nonage, knifelike on scene brushfires of freedom in the heads of work force.”
~Samuel Samuel Adams
Compose to your congressional repps and inquire for their help in scene up secure email with their firmly. It is non satisfactory for the executive branch to listen in on your communication theory with them. Cancelled to get them technical help, and get it as simple as possible, but maintain push.
Surface Time dialogue about inadvertence in his book Osama American in Thralldom
“My Jehad for Peace of mind”
There are encoding programs uncommitted, email me and I can state how to get demo downloads.
what the the pits, do we (the people) even affair. So a great deal for this so named Republic.
This is whole hideous, our regime makes non correspond the people at ALL any longer…..
This is precisely the ground wherefore we need Dr. Bokkos Alice Paul for President… the only campaigner to stand up up for our exemptions!
It’s Non excessively late to vote for Ron Alice Paul (the election is non until November) and it’s Non overly late to state everyone you cognize about Bokkos Paul.
OR, you can vote for any of the former nominees who I promise will farther the expunging of our rights and development of the police force state.
I believe it’s interesting that this is all warranted by the “president’s war-devising powerfulness.” But no contract of warfare has been been went through by the Congress. The Potus, under the Organic law, only acquires access to his war-devising powerfulness after US Congress has announced a warfare. In fact it is evened out illegal under the Organic law for the POTUS to ready for war against some other res publica without expressed contract.
Oh, and by the fashion, its non to late to incriminate.
Regimes fear the Net because at it’s nucleus it’s a double commonwealth with limitless potential.
This was a through with business deal as betokened by the whiff balloting. Meanwhile, Murdoch’s Word Corporation. inches nigh to derive a nonage interest in Bumpkin, under the pretense of salving it from Microsoft. And he has all but Bokkos Alice Paul in his sack:http://word.bumpkin.com/s/ap/microsoft_hick&pressman=1;_ylt=AqlpeOA6gFtKWlOsafp0IdFk24cA
Happenstance, or was Rupert Murdoch in on the FISA bill.
I’m travelling to state one thing about this, and I’m through:
All I will state is, if I of all time, let me state that over again: Of all time bump out that Verizon, AT&T, or any of these guys descried on me, they will rue the mean solar day. End.
I in person consider it is a full thought to supervise possible terrorists. I do non tell any thing all over the telephone set that they would care about.
I do non want some other 9-11 and anything they can do to forestall that I support
The telephone set argument should be stated public area as they subsist on state and private citizen land.
At best the telephone services are rental those telephone, cable and even electric argumentation to us.
We Yielded them the right to lot communication theory, they do non only have in innately.
Thence, we can Lots more than unsusceptibility. We can redefine our entire human relationship with them and place US back in control.
We can mandate seclusion, protection and even sensible cost because these service cannot subsist without adoption state land for the Poles and ditches.
Any fellowship exploitation state land is easy subject to wax state and federal ordinance, without question. We need but simply pass the measure and they get our bitches.
Merchandising your stock or boycotting are non valid schemes because they are non genuinely Democratic answers. No thing how large your bill or how little your bill you should equal tell as a citizen, but boycotts favor the affluent peculiarly as the wealthiness spread turns.
We simply smack them down with statute law and they postdate the Laws we demand, then it will be THEM mendicancy the judicatures for appeals nerve to happen loopholes patch their Monopolies on communicating fall.
We do non need underage penalisations or even family activity causas. These society can give virtually limitless financial punishments and go on to fly the coop the exact like mode. Not-Unsusceptibility makes non genuinely change anything, they only give a midget fraction of their yearly income and we all bury.
It’s non Verizon who neglected, it’s the scheme itself that neglected to protect our privateness and today neglects to keep what is understandably a rift of constitutional law. It would non thing if we category activity law suitable Verizon into not-beingness. A novel human face would start up and supersede them with more or less the like concern model. They could non get just the like error, but they will sure enough go right back to gain above all else, letting in the constitution.
As far as a corp is touched on, it’s the judicatures JOB to pick up them, non their job to represent just. They are countervailing their base doings and external cost onto the taxation remunerators.
This is the example for ALL major corps.
about damn time!
Too in infringement of Clause I, Subdivision 3 of the U.S. Fundamental law.
An I quote: “No Bill of Civil death or ex post facto Jurisprudence shall be went through.”
For those of you that do non cognise what ex post facto agency here you go.
“Ex post facto
ex post facto adj. Formulated, ordained, or operational retroactively. [MEd Latissimus dorsi., from what is made later on] Rootage: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Jurisprudence, the definition of what is ex post facto is more throttled. The first definition of what just represents an ex post facto law is set up in Alexander Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the thought of Justness Chase:
1st. Every law that makes an activeness through earlier the going through of the law, and that was clean when through, criminal; and penalises such activity. 2d. Every law that exacerbates a law, or makes it great than it was, when attached. 3d. Every law that changes the penalization, and imposes a great penalisation, than the law annexed to the law, when attached. 4th. Every law that modifies the effectual regulations of grounds, and haves less, or dissimilar, testimonial, than the law needed at the clip of the committee of the offensive activity, in order to convict the wrongdoer”
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