It’s Torture… No Thing What George Shrub Calls It
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Those look alike to pictures interpreted of nazi compactness camp dupes.
What is there went away for an american to be gallant of?
Are you pulling the leg of me!? Have you -understood- pictures of nazi camp dupes? They were far worsened. Wow.
That makes it ok then?
Dan,
there were camps, and there were THE cantonments. There was a wide spectrum of intervention - not all of them were malnourished to decease.
That being emphasised - it doesnt affair how very much they look like camp dupes. The item is no one merits to be hardened like this. Doesnt thing if they were Jewish, or if they are Kurd, Palestinian, Tibetan, Burmese, Chechneyan, Serbian, Croatian, Chinese, British, Indian, American, Mexican - you get the item.
What went on to the US as the reflecting citadel the free world? What happed to the lots gasconaded 1st amendment? Where are the exemptions of the 70s and 80s? Its dread that in the last ten months the US has bowed this toned.
Makes not surprise me why of America stiff the most despised imperium in the world.
I like these advertizings.
The 19% that still support Shrub need their heads analysed…ah fuck it, they should be waterboarded, sleep disadvantaged and then hit.
Slip no they should not be anguished or pipped or waterboarded…. it’s not their error their brains do not work aright.
It’s not their mistake that they do not realise the departure betwixt right and incorrect. That’s a genial job.
Amnesty International is a fearful organisation. They will impeach the Joined Provinces of evil, because they can get away with it. They wo not show the atrociousness transported extinct by terrorist in their “intelligence service assemblage” activeness for two reasons.
1. Terrorists do not care about what Amnesty International believes
2. Terrorists will but defeat any fuzzed apt peacefulness dissident that acquires in their way.
The musical phrase “utile imbecile” is applicable to this organisation and anyone who associates with them.
Jon-
I simply hope these incapacitated people do not start acquiring peculiar regime releases or particular exclusive rights.
Oh wait….plenty of already do…but for unlike grounds. Damn.
I established it hard to say the snowy textual matter in constituent, though it’s likely unlike when standing up in forepart of actualy cards those.
Early than that I conceive these advertizings take the substance crosswise.
David-
I hold. That is my only beef with the advertisings. Early than that I conceive they are outstanding.
Hey, “the percipient”,
The ground people hold the US to a high standard than they hold terrorists to is that the US claims to be better than terrorists. It’s not okay for the US to excruciate people as tenacious as there’s soul else extinct there tormenting people more, you cognise?
The “utile retards” are the aces who tell that torture is satisfactory when the US uses it - they’re very utile to the demo disposal.
Can we be a small more one sided here? It is an inexpensive pipped to exhibit only the dupes of torment at the custody of the American. Where are the advertizings stigmatizing the torment of American and British soldiers? Possibly an ad against terrorist act with pictures of the Sep. 11 attacks.
War is hellhole and all face are shamed. To dissemble like revenge and information assemblage by whatsoever agency possible to protect your own civilisation is evil is harebrained. These work force were not guiltless bystanders like the dupes of the compactness camps. To equate the two is unlearned.
commenters, you are changelings. i ca not conceive of the idea processes that moved into your “shares” here. in earnest. silly.
All of you are so speedy to support TERRORISTSs - and you cognize, peradventure these piteous psyches made nothing incorrect and are being anguished….or….Mayhap, they have voted out 10’s of 100s of people and whoever has them in detainment has probable cause to garner information extinct of them. Perhaps these pictures do not state you a matter about what’s genuinely moving on with these people. Perhaps all of you want to detest on Shrub and this country so big that you bury that piece you sit down all over here in the “rotten America” all decent and saved in your cell - that 10 - 20 people die every mean solar day from changelings drifting themselves up in the gens of “whoever” all over there ….
I state any to you - to a fault big so distressing…war is inferno.
Do what you have to do The States to secure exemption rules…somebody has to.
This is genuinely distressing, and it’s a big clip to be an american. I am ashamed.
Ostensibly you all made not realise the CNN particular where the Taliban and Al Kida terrrorists are incursive West Pakistan and Kasikstan where they passed over extinct entire townspeoples and then decapitated them and hung up them on the face of the route and markets, stating there own people that this is what is travelling to fall out to them if they face for commonwealth in there country, oh yea one of them was a 7 twelvemonth older small fry! Shame on him for lacking the simple thing in living like Ataraxis.
You cretins! War is surly no affair what, we are maintained to a standard that no one all over there yields a turd about the Genieva normal. Wake up and smell the debris of 911, you hemorrhage Black Maria!
jj, you’re a wit. 2 extinct of these 3 pictures are of iraqi’s, not afgans.
THEY Haved got NOTHING TO DO WITH 911.
Every clause based on the Republic of Iraq war excites the like remarks. Set compactly, people debate whether the terminals warrant the agency. Former people reason through their own strained views based on their own experiences, political perspectives, religious views or ethnic and ethnic ground.
Then people reason about the fact that there are ever two face of a narration, but alternatively of only locution that, they come up crosswise as fending for the former face, that only incenses the people who got the original comment.
From there the statement brings down to a level where people start marking The States (that passs from the setting about of the inputs oftentimes) and then some fend for America.
I have never went away an input on any of these pages earlier, because I say the inputs and wonder what it is that people do all solar day to sit down about pointing out on pages like this. I am not travelling to proceed pointing out on every clause, but my wonder has acquired the better of me.
Wherefore do not people comment on the existent clause, for representative, realise David’s comment. This is constructive and relevant.
In an instant of self-contemplation I agnize that this post itself is not peculiarly relevant to the clause and for this I apologise for my lip service, I hope you all realize. So to increase its relevancy, I concord with Saint David and Microphone, who noticed that the textual matter is hard to say and that the mental images are “alike” to some mental images interpreted of the captives of density camps run by the Nazi Political party.
No one is fending for terrorists, you cretins. These adverts are condemnatory the hypocritical posture of the current American authorities, that is to say vocation torture “enhanced question”. Torture is excruciated, and it is ever, ever, ever incorrect. It is incorrect when so named terrorists do it, and it is incorrect when Americans do it in the pursual of military adventures. You are mentally faulty if you consider otherwise.
wow, jj. you’re precisely the kind of imbecile bush is numberring on to back up this kind of poop.
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For people urging torture for “terrorists”, I urge you to realise the Academy Award-gaining documentary “Taxi to the Darkside”. It chronicles the “enhanced interrogatives” of the wrong-accused, plenty of of whom concluded up beat, patch the determination of such barbarities were brushed extinct of the public optic.
for Dilawar
Nobody’s supporting terrorists. Nobody’s refusing that terrorists breach human rights. The placards are highlight Whitehouse-patronized torture and not that perpetrated by terrorists because we all already cognise about the latter. It’s already got clear. Very, VERY clear. What is not ostensibly clear to the the great unwashed is that plenty of of the proficiencies ill in the “war on panic” get it hard to tell the “full hombres” from the “big hombres”.
@ #15
10’s of 100s of people? Would that be yards, mastermind?
Count on the culture mediums to brainwash the multitude.
Afghanistan - Al Ida, constituted home base of the Taleban and of Osama bin Laded. Transported extinct 9/11, shamefaced on all counts.
Republic of Iraq - Husain Saddam bin Hussein at, no Weapon of mass destruction, no concrete proof of anything.
Guess WHOs beat and WHOs disregarded today.
The US in Irak is bolsterring up Al Qaida and alike Muslim organisations because of the stress US forces make with local anaesthetics there. You understand a few picturs of Abu Ghraib and are dismayed. For them its a way of living.
The US has misplaced track of its existent precedencies. Its kaput beyond struggling terrorist act to engage war for the interest of warfare.
Today, Iran is next. Whats there? Ahmadinejad, WHOs been black by the culture mediums, is unpopular in his own country. Unpopular, yes, but still democratically elective. Shrub isnt that democratic any longer - makes that afford some other country the right to get into US soil?
Amidst all this, the Saudi still sit down pretty and proceed to exercise Wahabbism and immure and crush the public. Im not expression that the US should occupy Saudi Arabia as good nowadays, but even then, the US should - and must - respect the sovereignity of any stated res publica.
Finally, body politics will wake up and make an opponent powerfulness axis to forestall the US loot and pillage scheme. Itll be like the Moth Warfare all all over once again.
The junk of 911 has nothing to do with Republic of Iraq.
Torture is tormented and it’s against what of America stands for. There has to be a high standard that The States carries on. If not, then what thing? The States either needs to stand up up to that high standard or else The States will decline and go away like former outstanding civilisations. Being like others makes , and being an American, nonmeaningful. Wake up!!!! But because we’re at war makes not mean we have to be like terrorist, and torture. We made not hunger and gas captives in WWII because Hitler’s authorities made. Wherefore should we torture nowadays merely because Taleban tortures some civilians in Afghanistan. Populating to a standard has nothing to do with what somebody else makes. It is a standard!! What has got USA a beacon fire on a mound (until the Shrub Disposal(possibly Richard M and President Reagan, overly)) is the fact that stood up for that high standard in activity like imperishable by Geneve Formula measures and not backed to the like plane as terrorist and potentates. At least, that’s the way I was brocaded. The States needs to get back to stand up up for what’s right (at home and on board) or it may as good go away. What is of America if it makes not stand for something better than what’s natural event nowadays.
As latterly as 2000, of America was seemed up to crossways the world, and after 9/11, the world was good for our deprivation and we held an outstanding chance to get The States even great and an of all time brilliant beacon fire to the remainder of the world, but Shrub, and specially Cheney, took the US down to a toned standard by their activity of anguish and fallacious manoeuvre to get us into a warfare that American would never had got OKed if they had got realized the prevarications committed against them. They’re as well making away with our autonomies by illegalising dissent and undercover work on citizens. The States needs to arouse up, criminate them both (Cheney first), and then set them on test for offences against us. Former Shrub Disposal functionaries should as well be kept accountable. Let a warfare criminal offenses judicature sort it extinct.
Sigh…where to commence…
Do so plenty of of you cognise so small about story? There are reasons why German soldiers in WWII and Iraqi soldiers during the Disconnection War gave up so apace. They cognised they would be toughened good as captives of the Joined Provinces. The ground the victimized to be capable to require such trust from strange states is because we maintained ourselves to high criterions. Today we have let our glitterring pridefulness to be stained by the covetous fascist that presently regularise our one time outstanding country. We do not NEED any information from a tormented adult male…and research shows that information inferred via torture is seldom if of all time valid or helpful. The fascist turning tail this country want you to be afraid. The demand you to think that everything they do is a necessary evil. It’s not, and it never will be. You need to see that you could die at any minute and be OK with it. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING our regime is making right nowadays all over oceans (or at home) will do anything to halt one dictated someone from pain people. There are not any more act of terrorism attacks in the today than there have been end the balance of our story…up to now we brought off to get along simply okay earlier and brooded with them as individual incidents as they came up along. By definition (look it up) the big ordered series terrorist and terrorist act activeness travelling on in the world today that straight impact American are the heinousness that our own regime are working against its own citizens. I will go away you with a duo quotes:
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect autonomy when the Government’s purposes are benevolent…The superlative perils to autonomy skulk in pernicious intrusion by work force of ardour, good-intending but without realizing.” Joe Louis Dembitz Brandeis
“They that can afford up indispensable autonomy to receive a small temporary refuge merit neither autonomy nor refuge.” Asa dulcis John Hope Franklin
“As dusk makes not come up at one time, neither Energy Departments subjugation. In both cases, there is a twilight when everything stiff ostensibly unaltered. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most cognizant of modification in the atmosphere, yet slight, fifty we get unplanned dupes of the dark.” Justness William O. Stephen Arnold Douglas
I state we should overwhelm them for existent
Makes anyone even cognize for certain that these people are captives of The States?
I made not realize any name, I made not understand any way of cognising the persons in these pictures are not simply random people who offerred to take part in an anti torture campaign.
So what if they’re thespians. That’s not the detail.
Oh, I buried, war is said to be just, humanistic, and safe. Gimme a freakin break here. I just consider the US is the only country that’s of all time “tormented” soul by safekeeping them awake. I’m no conservative here but let’s not bury that big turd comes about in war letting in all mode of ugly conclusions. We sank an A-bomb on Nagasaki and belike protected more lives by making so than were shot down in the procedure. The world’s not black and snowy; get all over it.
Fuck, adult male. The world sucks in.
this is screwed up. not only am I sitting down here seeming at pictures that cue me of how people are being bonking tormented by my effing regime, I’m meter reading far to a fault lots support from lad citizens of mine.
I ca not express how defeated I am right today.
There’s some fresh motion pictures that simply came up extinct, Jon. Support this:
Regrettably, to torment person is to see them as less than human. And like it or not, in war, we are still all human.
The Shaping Departure betwixt the Joined Provinces, a country that pridefulness itself as the loss leader of the free world, and the commonwealths that we fight so a good deal, is that we DO NOT Toned OURSELVES to measure that permit the torment of some other human being.
We are potent enough not to, nor should we of all time be comfy with the thought of it.
To be comfy with torture is frankly, to be no better than the terrorists. What is the divergence betwixt us and them, relieve the fact that we are having on uniforms?
We, the Joined Provinces, will NOT toned ourselves to permit torture. We are not that commonwealth.
Every clip the number of anguish comes up up, I realize a wad of evasion from vindicators of torment, expression thing like “war is inferno, these thing go on” or “why are you supporting terrorists, they do the like material to us, you must hate The States”.
This is an inexpensive trade-extinct of American rules, and totally cutting all world. Yes, terrorists do big thing, that is why we call them “terrorists”. If we do the like thing they do, then what right do we have to name ourselves moral? Wherefore should we anticipate anyone to handle us in any way early than as if we were malefactors?
This country is grounded on the regulation of jurisprudence, and those who excuse torture hold our Laws in disdain. They are treasonists and are destructing our country. No country can hold up recollective condition if it gets virtuously corrupt.
Ya gotta be one simple boy of a cunt to give care about anything amnesty international states.
Thats sooooo imprecated funny!!! These are Older Movings interpreted from the 1940’s from when FRG occupied Poland. Interpreted from “Polish WWII Archive, published in 1968, Copy Right Mitche Press…. sheesh I ca not conceive how fleeceable you people are for dropping for this crap!!! Do your home work!
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Those picture shows from Abu are earnestly messed up up!!! Those are not fakes! Shrub and his lame tooshie pals should be ashamed!!! No wonder the Bishop of Rome idea that Shrub is the Anti Saviour!
#28, I concur with you demur for:
“Islamic State of Afghanistan - Al Qaida, constituted home base of the Taleban and of Osama bin Ladled. Transported extinct 9/11, shamefaced on all counts”
The FBI has not supercharged Osama for 9/11 because of deficiency of grounds. Besides, of the 19 9/11 highjackers, fifteen of the aggressors were from Saudi Arabia, two from the Joined Arabian Emirates, one from Arab Republic of Egypt, and one from Lebanese Republic.
And I’m an unlike Jon than the one that stationed above.
Apr Shrub, le dluge
skip the inside information
Saint George w. bush is worse than a terrorist, and torture is only incorrect no thing who is making it or what the lot are.
perchance these pictures are existent and the chronicles are believable, mayhap not. how would i cognize? all i do cognise is that today we are all talk about how hypocritical the american regime is. hurrah! and i cognize how lying with preposterously did it up it is. i live there.
Overly be certain I am not at ALL a Shrub fan, I consider Howdie Dudy makes better caricatures. All the same, I will not Bash our authorities, it is set up on selections, affording you that exemption to VOTE, in some commonwealths you get pipped for that, simply recollect that you have that exemption. So Young aces, go extinct and vote for somebody else, you feel will set our country USA back on track. Do not elect some other Shrub! Whether you state Afganistan, they likewise demoed pictures of the Taliban/Al Qaida terrorists transporting extinct torment of their own people, ravishing and tormenting their own adult females. You are right the Existence is in an atrocious mussiness. But let me inquire you something, Is anyone breakage down your room access tonight and voting out your household in front end of you and then set a slug in yours, earlier you crawl into your fond bottom tonight? Maked not believe So! That’s right you live in a FREE country!
All American are shitbags and your entire fuckin country should be passed over off the human face of the globe.
If you’re American, get a frigging hold of yourself, withdraw your head from your rear and agnise that yes regrettably the oft sought for breakup of full and big DOESN’T Survive. So stop being a cluster of milksops and tell yea we’re moving to do everything it uses up to attain a complete triumph, even if mistakes are got along the way.
You’re so right! Nobody’s break down my threshold and shot my home! I’m soooo favourable!
Exemption is perceptual experience as you delimit it, JJ. Say me where to chance the free world so I cognise where to show my starship.
Being got to rest awake for a retentive clip may be highly trying, but it is scarcely emphatic disruption of articulatios or raging fire hooks in the optic. Has anyone disregarded that exemption is not free? If you happen the price to a fault high, I propose travelling to one of the lots of places uncommitted on Earth where your exemptions may be curbed to your heart’s subject matter.
Right, Kevin. In this exposure, they particoloured a cat purple. This ca not be torture, though-because the cat looks very unbent:
Hey, I guess he made not talk, eh, Kevin?
So Al- Qaede has acquired
Outstanding pictures, and decent way of screening it. The laurel wreath on the first ikon acquires your attending speedily.
torture is an instrument…and like all tools they can be a welfare or a balk…simply bets on how its put.
The Shrub Disposal will have to face up their war offences. These laws go on to climb, use of uranium tied gun,torture, authorities functionaries talk to strange corps without the blessing of Congress, unjustifiable aggressiveness of warfare, wire tipping…etc…..these criminal offenses are so terrible that his unsusceptibility privileges cannot escape any jurisprudence, international or domesticated.
They victimised to hang up people for this kind of shite, and if there was any justness there would be a few more major public figures using up a recollective bead with a short rope.
Fuck you, vindicators for torture. You are the aces who do not merit to inhabit in a free body politic.
to lots of of you who had got antecedently pointed out…do not you consider ghandi held an item when he emphasised “an oculus for an oculus and the whole world moves blind.”
Awing. I hate big people.
The Pro-America/Anti-Terrorists are so God damn hard to reason with because their statements is so Supreme Being damn stupid.
I mean, for a First. why the f*ck made people get “terrorists”!? I do not conceive they got down contending the occupier ground forces in Republic of Iraq beacuse America took them serenity.
So Supreme Being damn stupid you pro-bush people are!
Anon…
Shhhhh! …it only uses up one half bare anorexic and .. Pfttt! there locomotes the whole imperium…
It’s all a cluster of maybes.
uh, as an perceiver and subscriber, effectual adverts they get the veiwer not only intrested but contending eachother all over the details they cherished, superb.
i do conceive that there isnt genuinely any reason to name any one face right or incorrect, the joined provinces is moving as a police force force to a country that doest nessisarily need it, but the country if coverred with right (like letting truely free elections) could truely perservere and flourish. Act of terrorism doesnt truly subsist as retentive as tabulator-act of terrorism uses the like manoeuvre as the “opposition” existent terrorist act is the fact that people are afraid enough to struggle for a reason they dont conceive in.
regretful if it piques but my sentiment.
And it’s all a cluster of fearfulness on all face.
Whether fear is warranted or not that is not the detail. We do not talk to each former. We are afraid of each others sentiments and afraid of assaying to realize one some other. We are afraid of communicating. That’s it.
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Some of you people are so damn stupid!!!…torture is racked and to you American’s who feel that it is ok to torment mortal is retched!!! As an American, I’m am very disquieted about the way we torture people and you should to a fault!…because it’s locomoting to be you next or mayhap a house fellow member!..Believe about that!!!
Joined We Stand, Dual We Fall.
Democrat love to Unify.
Republican love to Split up.
Let’s all simply all call it a solar day, chill the roll in the hay extinct, and focus on the of import thing - like heartsease, termination the warfare/decease/devastation, and restoration the regard of the worlds’ leadership.
I’m fashioning an input that is dreadfully one sided onto a discourse board where people either use up one face or the early and anticipate my persuasions to alter the former awfully one sided opinioned people that are similarly poster. All of those fought to my view points will realise the mistake in their legal opinion after meter reading my vituperative, utterly crafted pearl of wiseness and reform. Wah, soul has a dissimilar thought than me and he has discomposed me because they defended my statement.
i’m ill of everyone cheering atop their high Equus caballus about peacefulness. the world is a barbarous spot. the US protects their citizens. if people are stressful to do incorrect they should be anguished.
@#45:
Jon, I rationalise. What i intended to tell is that Osama bin ladled used up responsiblity for the provision and executing of the onset. I dont mean to nitpick here, but i fundamentally was motorring home the item that the mortal who had got an existent malicious schedule and supposedly arrogated to be responsible for is tranquillized free (somewhere in the North Occident frontier of West Pakistan, seemingly) piece Takriti Saddam Hussein, who has been unfriendly to the America but has never occupy any existent activity is today all in and supervened upon with a marionette regime.
Hope that clears up my point a small.
@42:
The substance is of import, not the fomite. If you genuinely want to realise the pictures of Abu Ghraib, google them.
They certain as good would not be let on postings in public.
…………but i do conceive in this!
@ anon its Gandhi not ghandi(that can be got extinct to intend sandalwood!!!)
In any case in a commonwealth, the powerfulness comes up from the people. for all modern solar day youthfucks(there pass off to be heaps down here in Bharat.. the balloting universe is at 40%?? shit!) go get ur bloody cans registered with the election comission and vote for some other bloody govt and not bush! Change is conveyed by the people not by the govt. its a fundamental dogma of commonwealth. and besides stop knocking your elective govt. they are ur spokespersons so if any1 is to be maintained hangdog in a republic for the mistakes of a commonwealth its the whole land. the disposal for the direct war criminal offenses and the people for electing the lying with govt not in one case but doubly! in agreement errors go on but u must correct em when u larn of em.. i end this comment with 2 qoutes from Gandhi:
“Be the alteration you wish to realise”
“do t0 some other what ud do to urself”
fuck’em
and fuck amnesty international, peta, and the hulk buffs. fuckin brainwashed loosers.
Indira Gandhi really told, “We must be the modification we wish to realise”.
Please do not bring up Indira Nehru Gandhi and quote him falsely!
Interestingly, that is one of my favorite quotes and I live by it. I conceive we should unify our civilisation and focus on grotesque ends unitedly. We as [multicultural] people should unify and colonise infinite.
American should lead (only because we’re wide followed) by doing work to unify the world and by turn the direction on colonising novel major planets. We can only get there if we change our focus from “our religious belief vs. their religious belief” to incorporated interplanetary ends.
@#76
You have a truly outstanding statement there that unquestionably vox a deepness of idea and view.
you stupid Hebrews
These placards do not really have any information on them. Like rootage or anything. I’m not locution it’s not dead on target, to be honorable I have no thought what’s travelling on all over there. Most people don’t. That’s why everyone is reasonning about it.
In my sentiment it would be better to supply an entanglement address on the card to an origin or some proof.
I could print “This adult male chuck kittens for breakfast. Do you want to be allies with an adult male who chow kittens? They’re kittens, no affair what Saint George Shrub calls them” on a bill. Makes not get it dead on target.
Once more, I’m not locution there are not people being anguished but I guarantee the people IN the cards are in all probability histrions so where’s the tale?
I conceive they could have made a better job.
Bokkos Alice Paul 2008.. Lets get the steering wheel travelling for dangerous modification in our regime! Get Shrub and his rowdies run extinct of business office and never come up back. Use up back the republican political party, and convey exemption back to the “free world.”
who needs some tall mallow with all this whine?
As I referred to individual but this even, one’s focus ought not be on being a full “american” or a full “christian” or full “muslim” or what have you. Those are and ever will be factious personal identities - one man’s paladin will be some other man’s terrorist, ever. No, far better to rivet on being a full human being. Perchance, some behaviours can be “warranted” as full for the country or full for the civilization, even so, is it full for ataraxis? Is it full for empathy, for compassionateness, for respect among human existences? Those are the of import enquiries. As we understand oftentimes, what is “full for america” is merely big doings. The like appraisal travels for any factious individuality one wishes to call. If your focus is on some swaggering individuality instead than on the number of regard - regardless of revengeful emotions - disrespect toward early human existences is likely to be your next step. But, of course of study, as Richard Dawkins and others more and more point extinct, to be a “full human being” is rather likely to a fault dissentious as good. There are a lot of early metal money whose endurance is jeopardized because human beingness are considerring only of themselves without respect for former living.
Peradventure, instead than inhabitting as a “full _____”, we ought to populate with empathy, compassionateness and respect as the standard in our ideas, behaviour and address.
Stop appearing for and protecting rank. It’s the certain way of comely an foe and of devising them.
full. they would kil us, so we torture them big deal its named effing war get all over it
Come up on! Just is just. Let’s hold an open mind about this. Possibly it truly is not torture. I consider the best way to happen extinct is to do it to the people who state it is not and essay to get them to state it is. If they hold extinct- I’ll think them and support it. So whose first? Cheney?
Progressives and cry infant….you are whats incorrect with The States. I do not care what haps to these terrorists as tenacious as we get the information extinct of them then throw out of them so they ca not hurt anyone else in the gens of Muslimism. You are moving to snivel and cry until we get carpet bombarded here in america and then you are locomoting to fault the work force that held the musket balls to go to any extent to protect our country and pin them for not making enough.
You all condemnatory these activity will shortly in the future regret the fact that we made not do enough. You will wake up and it will be to late. I am selfish in regards that I love my country more so than any former and will go to any duration to protect it spell you sit down back and piss away our exemptions, future, and inheritance. You are unfaithful son of a bitchs from an unlike mother country that merit nothing better than to be blackballed from this outstanding country because you do not posse comitatus the grit to get a pedestal for our future.
I do not care about amalgamation the world. I care about closing down those unbalanced Moslem mother fuckers that cause 99% of the macrocosms topsy. The only affair that occurs when we seek to be the illustration and lead the world is that we get picked up up in political rightness and finally get cut off at the genus. Lets as a country turn some nonliteral musket balls and kick the foe square in the loopy and place the world on notice that we are some grossing out sick people…Do not mess with us. ….guess i am in fantasyland. I am holding back for you liberal puss to convey me down to earth. By the way, if it wasnt for you tree huggers our gas prices would not be USD 4 a gal. Supreme Being proscribe if we preempt some reindeer in ANWAR…liberalists should all jump off a span!
You guys are right, possibly if we afford suspected terrorists flowers and enquire them nicely they will state us the next mint murder they were preparation. Cause that haps, right?
The snowy face is hard to say… got me look nigh… not a big matter at all…seeming near got me say the inputs… indication the remarks got me deplorable (demur for a few that were really about the pictures and one or two that held relevant, unbiassed information to get my journey towards an informed thought. Give thanks you to those few.)
Torture, in my very inexperient sentiment of the subject, is not only incorrect but looks to collect for the most part uneffective information. Evil and stoopid.. unify!
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Who cares what these guys go through!
They tell it’s ok, thence it’s ok. Right? /satire
I’m so glad I can experience full about being a Norwegian, a country with far to a fault small powerfulness to have that a great deal fat to throw away about.
@Ricky Barnes
Buster, you are right on !!!
..and you do not believe that the like is made to American POW’s? Afford me an interruption. But of class, The States is said to act better than everybody else. Turn the early impudence and all that. We will be turn our cheeks so a good deal that it wo not be recollective earlier we’re tumbled. Anyone who realizes this and conceives it’s unparalleled to the U.S. or that worsened is not through with elsewhere genuinely ought to get a hint and larn more about what’s locomoting on.
go JJ!
doesnt anyone agnize that torture is the best way to get information extinct of people. yea it sucks in, and if we have to come alive these motherfers up from time to clock to get information extinct of them, I’m all for it. There are plenty of early people to experience bad for in Asia and Africa. If you need a reason, “help them”, not these douchebags.
@kevin
Do not worry about it. You are loved. The unseeable ally your TV states you about will go along to enjoy you. Buster, Deliverer is a liberal.
Jesus Christ respect hard doing work people and wants more for them.
I’m moving to use up a speculation and tell that most if not all of you have dead no thought what you’re talk about. Do not get me incorrect, a pile of people here are but hollerring their thoughts into a proctor. “tortures big, america sucks in, bush is a douche bag,” fustian rant rant….thats dory. but adult male, you’d believe some of you guys are political psychoanalysts or something. Say the clause, look at some pictures and believe what you want to yourself because I guarantee that cypher here cares or would of all time even yield a sec idea about your “witty” and “insightful” remarks. I realise that even penning this comment could look slightly hypocritical on my part but…a quite a little of you look like tools. transport on…
I can accept to Ricky Barnes’ comment. But the pitiful matter is spell ideal and noble, the only matter that occurs is our soldiers and Iraqi civlians get bombarded, shot down, assailed, and so on. I would love to get along with everyone and work together with as one world with ataraxis and full volition as catchwords. But it will never take place because one Cs upon hundreds of brainwashing must be wiped out. (By the way Chris, I do not own a TV. If you cognized Redeemer, he would not excuse anything liberal or their societal dockets.)
I do not cognise what you’re talk about, dan. Of the pictures I’ve understood, the only ‘concentration camp’ dupes who seemed a lot worsened were the beat unities.
I lay ‘concentration camp’ in quotes, because that’s kind of what we’ve laid unitedly. The regime would vote out every last inpatient of Guantanamo if they could get away with it.
If you’re having trouble meter reading the notices, click on them for a bigger perspective.
Kevin I made cognise Jesus of Nazareth and I never picked up him talk about you.
Kevin-
If you love the country so a good deal could you at least acquire how to utilize the native linguistic communication better?
At the very least take advantage “America” all the way through. As a withdrew military adult male myself, one of the slipways you misplace battles is by having stinky propaganda. You’re voting down me here boy. And since I’ve acquired elderly I guess I’ve got more of a “pussy” but in time oil will get an affair of the past. Damage to the a pristine country corset evermore. I guess what I’m truly racking to state is there’s a big divergence betwixt backing up your country and backing up Big Oil. And trust me boy, Big Oil makes not care about us (The military) simply as recollective as we hold their merchandise safe. Cognise YOUR Foe my adult male! And thanks for your support.
J.L.A.
@american / post 87
Peradventure if we do not lie, cheat and steal they wo not want to defeat us. I cognise it’s a strange conception (no pun intended) to you, but to the most of us it’s obvious.
If we do not fuck with them, they wo not fuck with us.
Admonisher: Republic of Iraq made not attack us on 9/11, Osama Bin Ladled made.
Chris you’re right! It’s all so simple! If only we could stop screwing with people.
@Equus asinus
“doesnt anyone realise that torture is the best way to get information extinct of people.”
Really, torture is merely about the bad way to get information extinct of people. Consorting to rack scholarly persons, torture is only full for bullying and arousing mistaken confessions. Under torture, a mortal will state you any it is they believe you want to get word without any regard for the trueness. If they believe you want to get wind that there’s a bomb calorimeter in NYC, then they’ll state you that there is (even if there isn’t). Darius Rejali merely composed a fantastical fresh volume about the modern account of anguish (letting in in the Joined Provinces) named “Torture and Commonwealth,” and I extremely advise it to everyone here. He composed an article in the American capital Post of late named “5 Myths About Torture” that you can besides say.
@Kevin - Savior made not own a TV either, and if you would have said the Good Book you would cognise that Christ was VERY liberal and he ONLY stood up for societal good being and he cast away everything that is incarnate covetousness.
Please say your Word of God earlier typewriting…
Maked you cognise that in the Book it mentions victimisation rocks to oppress the skulls of our foemen shavers(after we vote out our oppositions) so that they ca not occupy revenge…in so a lot of language. please say YOUR Word of God earlier typewriting. Or at least the early half of it.
A few more comments to turn to some of the misconceptions that the pro-torture people look to have:
-The main purpose of slumber neediness is the face-personal effects: increased sensitiveness to trouble in the articulations and increased hurting from electroshock therapy. After a few hours without sleep, a knocking on your knee joints will feel a more afflictive than it usually would by an important element, and little electric shocks will be harrowing. Since neither of those is likely to go forth a score, this is a preferable method acting of anguish in lodges with Democratic inadvertence.
-The immense bulk of captives that the US holds in places like Gitmo are literally bought from former regimes or even from Afghani warlords. They mitt us the individual and state us that he must cognize something, we give thanks them with a premium and start questioning the captive. Finally, under torture, the captive will acknowledge to being mired in any number of terrorist plots, because under torture you would acknowledge that you’re a gelatin sinker if it intended they would stop.
-The most valuable and dependable intelligence service comes up from deserters and partner in crimes, NOT foeman belligerents. Every clip we torture individual, we disaffect the people whose help we need the most.
American will all go to the pits. There are full American, but none of them are making enough to halt this. You are all evil.
@Joe
I’m an adult and I do not conceive in fictions scripted by an unseeable adult male that “executes miracles” and that “can take the air on water” but ca not unhang himself from a wooden cross.
I stopped up considerring in unseeable allies when I was in unproblematic schoolhouse.
You must be the former mortal. The one that conceives in unseeable work force, revenge, expiry, devastation and Shooted down anyone that you are “afraid of”.
When a Bee stings you, do you smack it with a baseball game bat and “implore” that you will never get miffed once more?
No, you use Diplomatic negotiations and have your bee-loving neighbour come up move the hive into their garage so they can analyse it for their Graduate Jut!
That’s named a Profits-WIN state of affairs.
Alas, Republican have assayed to get us consider that we are lane (with us OR against us).
The world is that we are unitedly in all of this bullshit whether we like it or not. We’ve positioned up with “conservative” bullshit for the past 8 months: 8 months of utterly nothing full and everything big.
I’m hopeful that thing will change…
@Joe
“Maked you cognise that in the Word it mentions victimization rocks to suppress the skulls of our foes kids(after we vote down our foes) so that they ca not use up revenge…”
How very Christian of you, Joe. Few thing laud Jesus’ message than the bopping of skulls of nippers.
I’d like to realise pictures of the 9/11 dupes. Oh wait! They’re all in.
Chris I cognize…you’re right. judgment from only the right amount of satire you cast into your comment, I take for granted you do not think Redeemer locomoted about crackin’ skulls. You were stating somebody to say up on the Scripture and I was only proposing you do the like. To be honorable I’m mazed as to how you acquired the thought that I do consider in unseeable hands. Oh and for your information the last time I acquired pissed by a bee I made smack it off. I matted no need for diplomatic negotiations and/or talks.
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Wait, i’m confounded. some of you guys are locution waterboarding is horrifying and should never be through with to anyone, and in the like paragraph you state that “The 19% that still support Shrub need their heads canvassed…ah fuck it, they should be waterboarded, sleep disadvantaged and then pipped.”
bad, but that appears sort of contradictory to me..
Looks like Amnesty had got the like thought as i made
@ bob
ok, if Americans are evil because we are not making enough to halt this, then what are you making to halt it?
and dont yield me that whole “only american citizens can halt this” bullshit. you should still be capable to do something.
Astonishing indication the remarks, as ever. To all those who do not see these advertisements, the detail is this:
The States is broken than the terrorists: we should not torture. It makes not affair if they’re hangdog or not. Savage and strange penalisation was illicit by our wise foundation begetter because it is big for the psyche of our body politic. It makes not affair what the terrorists made: a run and mensurable penalization (mayhap letting in a clear exectuion) is all that is permitted.
If you cannot take account that then genuinely, state me what makes you dissimilar than the terrorists?
Love : maintain her better than her foes.
Hey do not worry anyone, Saint George W Shrub has only murdered a spot all over 1 000 000 workforce, adult females, and nippers, Adolf Hitler defeated like 6 000 000 people so its not the like matter at all! Shrub has only occupied and tenanted like 2 commonwealths.. Hitler made like a few more so its whole unlike! Shrub has ONLY tormented a twosome dozen people to decease, hes much a world paladin of exemption and autonomy!
Peradventure we should give them drinking chocolate bon-bons and let them play with pups and kittens for a hour interval - that is certain to pressure the captives into affording up information that could really help us to get an advantage
Shrub will burn in inferno for what he has made. The rake of every all in US soldier, Iraqi and Afghan is on his custody! He needs to give for this, nothing short of expiry will reach this!
I hope he acquires assassinated!
Question for everyone:
Conceive about the individual u love the most and will do anything for them. They r being maintained captive (no nutrient, water, bad example scenario)
One soul who cognises where they are would not state you anything.
Will you vanquish him up to they the information??
Yes or No
I do not cognise ur answer but if its YES, thats torture and by all way use up it up a mountain pass and “they should be waterboarded, sleep disadvantaged and then hit”
Do not get me incorrect i do not support torture, but I can consider of more than a few state of affairs where I would not consider double. Ataraxis
The level of civilisation of a country/group/etc is demoed by how it treats it’s foemen.
Torture, to do or not to do. That is the interrogation. http://johnadriansblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/toture-to-do-or-not-to-do-that-is.hypertext mark
oh those pathetic terrorists! why are we so mean to them when all they want to do is defeated our soldiers and guiltless civilians! waaaaaaahhhhh!!!!
Either component part in a warfare incline to do frightful thing singles could call it “opposition” patch others call it “terrorist act”. I consider it’s truly hard to pass judgment who is incorrect patch the warfare is not all over. That’s named Account.
At any rate, torture ca not be warranted by a “Oh look what THEY’ve made THEY are evil, not us”.
And for those who tell “it’s not incorrect to rack them if they’ve defeated people, specially Americans”. Good, I do not cognise if it is a mutual item of perspective in the US but it is pretty frighting that you can conceive this way.
Genuinely the frontier betwixt you and the terrorists is witherring.
And by the way, we have something named “Laws” and “justness” to penalise those slayers.
it not only George Shrub who isnt vocation it torture. its his whole stupid organisation. im not locution Republicans but the bush disposal is making some horrifying thing. if we didnt occupy Irak this never would have passed off
I genuinely do not care, and grousing on an entanglement site is not locomoting to alter the world. Comment box not sermonisers corner.
Torah and Justness do not convey us any near to acquire this war, that so plenty of of you are eager to get extinct of.
Distressing matter is, whenever our regime assayes dissimilar schemes to incur the information needful to hold stairs before of your foes, YOU step in front end of them and state it’s incorrect. Wherefore? Because you do not realise it. So a lot of people are fought back to the Conducting wire Tipping program, when you do not even realise that unless you were talk to mortal from Republic of Iraq on a semifinal-daily footing, that was not a soldier - you would not be a mark. But that makes not affair because the word got it sound like the regime would be hearing to our nightly phone calls - that is uproarious in its ridiculousness. I’ll glady afford up a spot of privateness if it way they’ll catch soul provision an attack on our country - but I do not have to, because they would never have a ground to hear to my phone calls.
Onto the waterboarding. Wherefore, Wherefore ARE YOU AGAINST IT? You want the US to be understood as a reflecting baston of promise? Wherefore? Lots of the world HATES US because we’ve been depicted as the world’s police - and do not you dare blame Shrub for that one, because Clinton was even MORE responsible for.
These figures are manifestly models.
lol@you retards conceiving these are existent pictures of captives. lolmoar@all you retards who are yelling all over this. “What is there went forth for an american to be gallant of?”, “Its frightening that in the last ten months the US has crouched this toned”, people who tell this shit are likely some eurofag’s. Maintain on caressing and yanking eachothers gumshoes you butt-cronies, that certain volition help the world… faggots.
As far as I’m interested, our foeman belligerents have no rights, no value, and are only menaces to be eleminated. The terrorist have exhibited nothing but a desire to restrain, fight and vote out to get their way.
After 9/11 - I tell may they burn in inferno.
You want to realise existent pictures of Iraqi prison houses google “Abu Ghraib prison house”. But guess what, scorn what is occurring at these prison houses, it occupies a complete screwing retard to aggroup the entire Joined Provinces into that. Wherefore do not you fag’s go say a volume named “Devil Effect” alternatively of being a clump of small unheard anti-US cry babe bitches all over the net. Get a having it off living. kthxbye.
The terrorists/Taliban/”unusual-ists”/… or whatsoever you want to name them beginned this war.
They have no self when they gang up and vote down anyone (ie newspersons like Daniel Perl)
So I do not care, let them get what they merit.
I cognise we all get upset about what we conceive is America’s “sudden” turn to excruciate and “enhanced” information assemblage method actings. What I want to cognize is, in the past that you think, you cognize, the one where none of that stuff ill to go on….what color were all of the pretty unicorn trots? This is war, ever has been ever will be. Taked place in WW2, WW1, Polite Warfare, Revolutionary War, etc, etc, etc. All we have today is the power to yip about it line. Nothing is fresh. Wherefore do people maintain making this age after age? It plant.
where 99.99% of people whose view makes not mean a making love affair express it like it makes… Supreme Being I miss the hours the net was US only… and only for those voguish enough to apply it, Euro’s + retards have occupied the cyberspace
Certain, “no one merits to be toughened like this”. They’ve only shot down how lots of of my blighter soldiers, only to gasconade about it posterior? Remaining awake for a few hours, please, I’ve been through worsened in Basic for God’s interest.
Enquire one of those ‘victims’ what their name, rank, and serial number is. If they can reply, we’ll treat them under the Laws of the Geneve Rule. Otherwise, they’re illegal fighters… f***ing terrorists, people. Are you burying what they made to get in those state of affairs in the first place?
The World’s Record For Tenacious Human To Dwell Without A Caput…
belike belongs to to an American Declarer beguiled by Iraqi insurrectionists who are cognized to employ “enhanced interrogative sentence proficiencies” where the dupe has his or her head cut off tardily and distressingly.
Wow, the republitards truly came up extinct of the woodworking on this one. Squirting off their close-apt bs about what terrorists merit. Of all time conceive that mayhap some of the people being tormented are simply suspected of being terrorists? Oh yea, guiltless until proved shamed is only for American. For nowadays. Wait until that mentality turns about and bites us in the derriere. Not that any of you would likely notice it unless it specifically unnatural you.
I miss the full older hours when we really stood up for exemption and autonomy. You cognize, earlier “exemption and autonomy” got a catch phrase.
For screaming extinct loud, there WERE NO Full Older Years, unless you count the fact that no one cognized about what genuinely travelled on during war, or if they made, made not care.
Shrub IS WORSE THEN Saddam AND OSAMA United. HE HAS Shooted down MORE Guiltless Citizenry, BUT AS HE Stated ITS But (HIS) WAR ( FOR OIL).
The US is not alone in this practice. It is made in most every commonwealth in the world.
If my boy or girl were in grave peril, I would not waffle to essay to get information from a captive to protect them.
Would you?
I mean, that Full Older Years are we talk about? You mean like the American Gyration full older hours, when we were a fresh country refreshing with exemption and autonomy? Unless you were black, female, pitiful, or native-american, in that example you were f@cked. Or perhaps you mean Polite Warfare full older hours when we set the hard workers free? You cognize when we unbroken our captives of warfare in god clay pits and would not conceive doubly earlier sawing the tree branchs off our opposition battlers for information on the next day’s troop motilities. Or perchance you mean Full Older Years of the twist of the 100 when we still victimised nervus gas on the conflict field of battle. Or peradventure you mean mid-twentieth hundred when we confined yards of Japanese even though there was not a breath of proof that any of them were spies during WW2? Or the full older hours of Viet Nam when we merely victimized to napalm small towns “in example”. Which full older hours are we wish for?
So there are limits on what we can do to protect “exemption & autonomy?”
Last I checkered, shooting down people was big, excessively.
Should we not do that, either?
As for waterboarding captives who were really mired in the provision of 9/11 and held cognition of former plotted terrorist attacks, I state “Open the spigot!”
Finally, you all need to allow go of the 2000 election. No thing how a great deal you hate President of the Shrub, he acquired, AlGore misplaced.
God Sign USA!
@Smitty Stevens: You, Sir, are an instrument.
@Anon : He’s likely a 13 twelvemonth older with his first taste of political persuasion.
@Jesse
Do you cognize the existent statistic of people who have been let go from Guantanamo without charge after a duet months of anguish? This is a laden inquiry because I cognize the response.
Of course of study you don’t, you unlettered small goose.
How can you walk about blind/deaf and obtuse and then s mind to come up up with a small treasure like “open the spigot”
State you what… bump extinct these stats, and then come up back and say me why those stats thing in regards to your argument.
Please. You common people are pitiable. They can chop up of people’s heads on photographic camera? They can pip down logical argument of soldiers? We waterboard and you mislay it? You cognize what this is named? Amentia.
We do not torture in the The States, we torture in early body politics. What’s incorrect with this sentence? We as American cannot and should not excuse war criminal offences! No thing where we commit them.
Wake up!
I do not get it… what do these pictures show? These guys all look like they’re in outstanding wellness with a small H2O on their face.
Anyone that compares these with the Final solution are cretins and need THEIR head analysed. There’s no doubt that torture is incorrect, but I do not realise how these exposures turn out or confute an affair.
Do not be stupid. What’s jostling person submerged for a spot for information likenned to chop up off somebodies head or defeating entire homes as a menace? This is a warfare, you do not believe early body politics do this?
Have to state though, torture is not the ‘best’ question proficiency extinct there, in person i conceive not-wild method actings such as mistaken befriending work good enough to get echt information extinct of prisoners.
Still, people should not be so f**male monarch sensible about this, this is nothing likenned to what some states do.
Shrub sucks in btw
Its astonishing how the terrorists can decollate captives, have ganged up-rape suite, and subject their captives to ugly torment, until now we should use up it easy on them. We yield these people repasts that ply to their faith, we manus them their holy book with mitts on so we do not outrage it. Torture in itself is inhumane, but so are people that wing planes into edifices.
When I was a small fry, I think indication account books, and believing how outstanding it was that we vanquish the German Nazi. My feeling were for the most part because of how frightful the German Nazi were, and how terribly they toughened people. They held secret prison house camps, anguished people, and voted out one thousand thousands of clean people. They were THE Big Bozos.
Nowadays the Joined Provinces is employing a lot of of the like method actings nowadays as the Tierce Reich made then. Spell patently incorrect, the motivations scare me even more. Is this only avarice evincing itself as the utmost in evil - defeating people for money?
I ever turned up believing we were “the full bozos”, and that’s why we were “acquiring”, and that our lives were so a great deal better off - we had got farmed out, firm, autos, wellness care, relative refuge - because of our high moral anchorred. Look at the residue of the world - most of the residue of the people in the world live in squalidness and impoverishment.
Torture, secret prison houses, and undercover work on our own citizens do not sound like the activities of “the full hombres”, do they?
- Stop Expression American Are Voguish Than That” - Bill Maher
- Timeline Of Shrub Admin’s Politicization Of Affright, 2002-2008